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Old 09-05-2022, 09:54 PM
 
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You all better hope we never need help from other nations in the Americas. Lots of short-sightedness (and bigotry) here. Alpha cities have responsibilities that extend beyond their jurisdictions.
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Old 09-06-2022, 06:18 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Shame they weren't bussed to Chicago during the Covid lockdown. They are all unvaccinated and swarmed the border over the last few years. Everyone said "No problem they are in Texas".

Feds locked down businesses, demanded employees get jabbed, closed schools but had no problem letting a million unvaccinated people cross the border.
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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Shame they weren't bussed to Chicago during the Covid lockdown. They are all unvaccinated and swarmed the border over the last few years. Everyone said "No problem they are in Texas".

Feds locked down businesses, demanded employees get jabbed, closed schools but had no problem letting a million unvaccinated people cross the border.
Made no sense at all. Funny how today so many of us are being forced back to the office jabbed or not, masked or not. It is all back to normal. Guess covid is gone now lol
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Old 09-06-2022, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Tri-Cities
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You all better hope we never need help from other nations in the Americas. Lots of short-sightedness (and bigotry) here. Alpha cities have responsibilities that extend beyond their jurisdictions.
Since when???
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Depends on the era... just millions still entered with no real papers pre WW1 especially.

https://www-history-com.cdn.ampproje...rocessing-time

More than 12 million immigrants passed through Ellis Island between 1892 and 1954 -- with a whopping 1,004,756 entering the United States in 1907 alone.
Back in those days, there was no government benefits, so those people (and even their kids!) were either forced to work or enlist in the military service. There was no social security, medicaid, food stamps, unemployment, or heck, even government schools for kids, and child labor was rampant and common. Thus those immigrants coming in knew what they were getting into. In the US you either worked hard or you were destitute and miserable and nobody expected someone else to carry their water. Majority of the country was empty and there was basically no zoning laws with construction everywhere and huge demand for unskilled labor to construct modern day bridges, sewers, tunnels, dams, roads, and everything else. There were huge shortages in laborers in the economy even with those immigration numbers.

Nowadays, the unskilled are a drain on resources. They use government services and we mostly outsourced our manufacturing jobs overseas and there is very little demand for unskilled labor compared to in the past, as the country shifted to a more value-added skill based economy. There are also minimum wage laws and other labor laws, so you can't really take advantage of this cheap new non-citizen labor. All infrastructure projects will still cost an arm and a leg and be a decade delayed.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:18 PM
 
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Since when???
For all we know, this could have been planned between the two. Win-win for both, depending on your perspective. People are suckers for optics.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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This sums it up perfectly. As an Independent I completely agree. I get why people in Chicago are excited about this, and the notion of “why not let in hardworking people who can contribute,” and for a small number I have no problem. But as a long term solution, at some point, you have to follow a legal process.

It has to be a documented process that is followed legally for everyone. As another poster said, at a global level, there needs to be activism around making countries safe so there is no need to flee. But it can’t be a completely open border. There has to be a legal process.
If they are refugees or asylum seekers, they are going through a legal, documented process.
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Two whole busloads and already Mayor Chia Pet is crying uncle. "We're overwhelmed! We need help from the feds!! WAAAHHH!!! Oh, and by the way, Governor Abbott who deals with dozens of busloads of immigrants showing up EVERY DAY and has been begging for help for nigh on two years now is evil for making us live up to our professed values and share a tiny fraction of the burden. WAAAAAAH!!!!"

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Old 09-07-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Abbott is wise to disperse these misplaced people all around the country especially to those areas that have indicated they were sanctuary cities.
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Old 09-07-2022, 02:15 PM
 
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Biden was flying them in at wee hours in the AM but when Abbott buses them it's wrong? They're sanctuary cities.
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