03-01-2010, 09:11 AM
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There was recently a large house on the corner of Marine Drive and Hutchinson Street for sale... It's officially in Uptown, but is only steps from the border with Lake View. And then of course, you'd be my neighbor...
Here it is... It's only four bedrooms, but with 6100 SF to work with I'm sure you could carve another bedroom or two out somewhere. This guy had to leave the neighborhood because he was busted for poisoning neighborhood dogs who used the parkway in front of his house as a bathroom. This house is right on Marine Drive (basically the frontage road for Lake Shore Drive), and is only a short block away from the tunnel under the Drive to get to the Lakefront parks. Your view from the roof would be the lake beyond Waveland golf course. And Montrose Harbor.
4230 N Marine Drive, Chicago, IL, 60613 - MLS #07274718 - Single Family Home real estate - REALTOR.com®
03-01-2010, 09:24 AM
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Kinda nuts...
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Here it is... It's only four bedrooms, but with 6100 SF to work with I'm sure you could carve another bedroom or two out somewhere. This guy had to leave the neighborhood because he was busted for poisoning neighborhood dogs who used the parkway in front of his house as a bathroom. This house is right on Marine Drive (basically the frontage road for Lake Shore Drive), and is only a short block away from the tunnel under the Drive to get to the Lakefront parks. Your view from the roof would be the lake beyond Waveland golf course. And Montrose Harbor.
4230 N Marine Drive, Chicago, IL, 60613 - MLS #07274718 - Single Family Home real estate - REALTOR.com®
Total room count is ONLY NINE!!! They are being very sly with the 6100 sq ft, that has to include every sq inch under the roof...It is only 4 bedrooms, and the rooms sizes hardly seem consistent with the visual impact the exterior makes. The lot is fairly large by City of Chicago standards, but the interiors are not impressive. Sorta like taking a middle of the road suburban home and "plopping" into the site. Not appealing. It will eventually find a buyer, but it will always be a tough sell. Now if the place was dripping with "period charm" (actual or re-created) or even one of those "traditional on the outside freakishly modern on the inside" redos it would have much broader appeal. Where is the media room? Where is the kitchen out of a dream magazine? $4M buys a lot of house even in pricey North Shore towns...
03-01-2010, 09:34 AM
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Total room count is ONLY NINE!!! They are being very sly with the 6100 sq ft, that has to include every sq inch under the roof...It is only 4 bedrooms, and the rooms sizes hardly seem consistent with the visual impact the exterior makes. The lot is fairly large by City of Chicago standards, but the interiors are not impressive. Sorta like taking a middle of the road suburban home and "plopping" into the site. Not appealing. It will eventually find a buyer, but it will always be a tough sell. Now if the place was dripping with "period charm" (actual or re-created) or even one of those "traditional on the outside freakishly modern on the inside" redos it would have much broader appeal. Where is the media room? Where is the kitchen out of a dream magazine? $4M buys a lot of house even in pricey North Shore towns...
It's been on the market for quite a while. The value of the land is boosting the price, since there are very few lots like this available in Chicago. You can't see from the pictures, but the house looks quite grand in its setting. Smaller houses on Hutchinson (not on the lake) have been selling for over $2 million. But I do imagine this house to sell for quite a bit less than asking.
I don't think the interiors are THAT bad. It's not my taste, but I could work with it.
03-01-2010, 05:28 PM
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Here it is... It's only four bedrooms, but with 6100 SF to work with I'm sure you could carve another bedroom or two out somewhere. This guy had to leave the neighborhood because he was busted for poisoning neighborhood dogs who used the parkway in front of his house as a bathroom. This house is right on Marine Drive (basically the frontage road for Lake Shore Drive), and is only a short block away from the tunnel under the Drive to get to the Lakefront parks. Your view from the roof would be the lake beyond Waveland golf course. And Montrose Harbor.
4230 N Marine Drive, Chicago, IL, 60613 - MLS #07274718 - Single Family Home real estate - REALTOR.com®
Hey thanks for taking the time to research and post this. I do agree with one of the other posters it's not as impressive as I'd have it in the terms expressed, however I'm glad to see it. A house with a yard in Chicago... amazing. I could garden there...
03-01-2010, 05:44 PM
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One of the homes on that site is
very close to my own home in east Lakeview
03-01-2010, 05:45 PM
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Dude there are LOTS of houses with yards BIGGER than that, it is just that one is about close to Lake Michigan as is currently on the market (and still is NOT truly "lake frontage")...
03-02-2010, 08:29 AM
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If you just want a nice large house with a yard in the city, move to Sauganash or Edgebrook. Much cheaper, but very low crime and well-kept homes.
03-02-2010, 08:45 AM
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There are some SFHs on the riverfront in Ravenswood Manor with quite nicely sized yards. That neighborhood is lovely and safe as well.
Like this one:
http://www.urbanrealestate.com/prope...Y4QB7UFY4.html
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03-02-2010, 09:46 AM
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You know I would like to be able to walk to the shore easily in summer time... and have a yard for gardening... so not sure what my options are.
03-02-2010, 09:49 AM
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This is amazing, thanks for providing it. It is in nice proximity to the shore, not to far of a driving distance / biking. Lovely!
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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