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Mark 3:20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family[b] heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
Strange thing to think of someone who seems to be very successful in his ministry.
Maybe he'd been acting strangely before, and she had decided something like, "one more time, and we're going to go bring him home."
Maybe Jesus had been literally out of his mind at times - I tend to think that, as an observant Jew, he had been married at one time and maybe had gone almost out of his mind with grief if his wife had died. Maybe that's why he went out on that mysterious long fast in the desert.
What do you think?
It's an interesting look at ancient attitudes toward mental illness, that it must have been common enough back then, and that families were considered to be responsible for the afflicted.
Mark 3:20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family[b] heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
Strange thing to think of someone who seems to be very successful in his ministry.
Maybe he'd been acting strangely before, and she had decided something like, "one more time, and we're going to go bring him home."
Maybe Jesus had been literally out of his mind at times - I tend to think that, as an observant Jew, he had been married at one time and maybe had gone almost out of his mind with grief if his wife had died. Maybe that's why he went out on that mysterious long fast in the desert.
What do you think?
It's an interesting look at ancient attitudes toward mental illness, that it must have been common enough back then, and that families were considered to be responsible for the afflicted.
He challenged the establishment and even the most successful in this situation are considered out of their minds which in fact it is true in one sence. Jesus was God in the flesh yet still a man as well so yes often times He would seem out of His mind when possessed by the Holy Spirit. Jesus was never married so that part is irrelevant.
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How can you be so sure he was never married? The Bible doesn't mention a marriage, but that might have been because he forbade mention of it - maybe he was too heartbroken to mention it if she had died.
Jews were commanded to marry in the Old Testament. If Jesus hadn't been married soon after mastering his trade and being able to earn a living at it, that would have been remarkable and an issue of great controversy in the community long before his ministry. It was considered a sin not to marry.
How can you be so sure he was never married? The Bible doesn't mention a marriage, but that might have been because he forbade mention of it - maybe he was too heartbroken to mention it if she had died.
Jews were commanded to marry in the Old Testament. If Jesus hadn't been married soon after mastering his trade and being able to earn a living at it, that would have been remarkable and an issue of great controversy in the community long before his ministry. It was considered a sin not to marry.
It would certainly have raised some eyebrows in his community if he had not married. Good point.
How can you be so sure he was never married? The Bible doesn't mention a marriage, but that might have been because he forbade mention of it - maybe he was too heartbroken to mention it if she had died.
Jews were commanded to marry in the Old Testament. If Jesus hadn't been married soon after mastering his trade and being able to earn a living at it, that would have been remarkable and an issue of great controversy in the community long before his ministry. It was considered a sin not to marry.
Many throughout the OT did not marry until they where 40 and were not frowned upon. And by the way He was dedicated to His mother and much of His life was revealed so there was no reason not to have included a wife other than He never married.
Where does it say that He had to marry or He would be guilty of sin?
His disciples did not as yet comprehend the true nature of God's Son, and were unneccessarily concerned that he was risking his safety by remaining in the midst of the large mass of people pressing in upon them. Jesus was well aware that He was in no danger.
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I still don't see where it would be a sin if someone didn't or hadn't married by a certain age.
Right, there's no specific age requirement (nor minimum requirement, a political marriage could take place at a very young age and not be against the Bible). But from what I've read, the way they interpreted that was by when a man had learned his trade well enough to leave his parents' home and afford a wife and family, he should start looking. Generally speaking from what I've read, this would have been in the late teens (boys everywhere in the world usually learned their father's trade since they were very young, so it didn't take longer than that to master it).
The girls were generally married off much earlier, soon after their first period, so that they wouldn't screw around with the wrong guy and shame the family, not to mention reducing her chances of being anything better than a prostitute in life).
I'm not at all saying that it's certain Jesus was married, but in my opinion very possible, even likely. We don't know what happened to him between the ages of 12 up to his ministry which is estimated to have been in his early 30s.
Of course if Jesus and his family were of such low social standing that nobody wanted to marry their daughter off to him, he might have remained single. That's possible if the villagers didn't buy Mary's story of having been impregnated by God before marrying Joseph. They could count months back then too, and if further he didn't resemble Joseph there might have been some gossip.
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