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Old 02-27-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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Okay I know I know. Here I go again!!!!!! I am studying the lineage of Christ in our Bible Study where all my crazy questions are coming from. Here is another one that I would like to get your input on....
In the story of Tamar, we learn that she covers herself and sleeps with Judah to become pregnant. Judah does not realize it is Tamar. In the story of Rahab (I finally learned to spell it right ) she lies to the king's guards and sends them after the spies while all along hiding the spies in her house. My question...does this mean it is okay to lie or be dishonest when it is for the "greater good" and if so how would you determine it was okay? I am curious to all of your answers! Thanks as always!

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:31 AM
 
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No, it doesn't.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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But if either of these women had changed their actions they wouldn't be in the lineage of Christ...interesting to me. So not arguing with you, I really do want people's thoughts on this and I appreciate yours World Citizen!
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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That's true. And, there are many other examples in the Word of similar situations...

When WE look for loopholes in the Word to justify wrongdoing we are being presumptuous...

There's a NT scripture that addresses doing something wrong when we know better. Think it's in Corinthians...

You've brought up something beautiful. I almost posted it in your other Rahab thread but I figured someone else would. The fact that Rahab is in the lineage of Christ is so beautiful. It shows the heart of God, the Father...

His ways are above our ways.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:42 AM
 
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Not really looking for a loophole, just for a better understanding. Thanks World for your posts and I am heading into Corinthians to see what I can find
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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Default Romans 14:22

It's in Romans, not Corinthians. Sorry!

Romans 14:22

Happy is he that condemneth not himself it that thing he alloweth...

The whole chapter discusses making Godly choices...
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:54 AM
 
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Thanks World Citizen! I was enjoying Corinthians anyways !!!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:56 PM
 
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It is not about the lying, it is no matter how mans flesh gets in the way God has already made away to accomplish what he has called into being, It is very important to God that we keep our promises, That is why it is important that we do not make vows or promises if we represent God, and he is faithful, then we must be faithful, for he is faithful. And we know her fil was not going to keep his promises. Tamar was chosen to be in line, however The linage to be fullfilled by the first two sons where not to be,( as they eliminated by God) but the promise of how a widow was to be treated and a promise that she was to carry the seed of her dead husband. Because her FIL represented the lineage of Judah and inspite of his unfaithfullness he was made to be faithful. I hope this makes some sense For God does care how women were treated.


Rahab ( prostitute), Tamar (cannonite). Ruth the moabitess, and Bathsheba The adulteress, it is amazing to see how these women, came into the linage of Christ. Yet all redeemed. Inspite of the men in there lives
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:48 PM
 
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Default Well said !

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It is not about the lying, it is no matter how mans flesh gets in the way God has already made away to accomplish what he has called into being, It is very important to God that we keep our promises, That is why it is important that we do not make vows or promises if we represent God, and he is faithful, then we must be faithful, for he is faithful. And we know her fil was not going to keep his promises. Tamar was chosen to be in line, however The linage to be fullfilled by the first two sons where not to be,( as they eliminated by God) but the promise of how a widow was to be treated and a promise that she was to carry the seed of her dead husband. Because her FIL represented the lineage of Judah and inspite of his unfaithfullness he was made to be faithful. I hope this makes some sense For God does care how women were treated.


Rahab ( prostitute), Tamar (cannonite). Ruth the moabitess, and Bathsheba The adulteress, it is amazing to see how these women, came into the linage of Christ. Yet all redeemed. Inspite of the men in there lives
Great post.

You covered it all!
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:13 PM
 
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This may be an issue similar to law and ethics, whereby the law establishes a statute, and ethics calls one to a greater good. If you can show the justification of a greater good, not short-term or inconsequential benefits, and not because it feels good only to you, one would 'pay' for the sin of lying, but may find justification in the righteous deed.

As has been stated however, it is not a balancing act to tangle in. Tamar, Rahab, Bathsheba all didn't have the foresight to know they would have been in the Christ lineage. And there was certainly a cost to each, even if they 'knew' G-d, or were saved, or whatever name we want to apply to living in G-d's light.

It is a very high stakes game nevertheless, and one played often by many, w/o knowing full consequences.
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