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Old 01-18-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Since Paul died in 64 AD and Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were written between 70 AD and 106 AD, doesn't this mean that they all were sent to hell?
Good one. And John is even more guilty than the other gospel writers, since his gospel was likely written after he warned himself (in Revelation) that writing any more was a no-no.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Why not, what scriptural precident would make it wrong?

If people are misusing the scripture, perhaps, show what scriptures apply to your belief.
You're right, I misspoke. I guess since people do add to it and take away from it all the time, they ought to knock themselves out. Since what is said is referring to the old laws and Revelation, if they want to add to anything else, they can...and do.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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This thread wasn't about whether or not one should add to scripture. When people say, "the bible says not to add to or take away from the bible", they quote Revelation, and it's a false statement. That is what this thread is about. Misquoting scripture.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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This thread wasn't about whether or not one should add to scripture. When people say, "the bible says not to add to or take away from the bible", they quote Revelation, and it's a false statement. That is what this thread is about. Misquoting scripture.
You're right. It's easy to get sidetracked. Here's one. People say that the Bible says "Money is the root of all evil." It doesn't. It says, "For the love of money is theroot of all evil." There is nothing inherently evil about money.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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Nice thread, mzjamiedawn!
Very accurate and illuminating (for many) no doubt!

I have known many people to confuse the reference to "this book" (the Book of Revelation) with "this book: the Bible" (the collection of books that contains it), especially since it comes at the very end of the Christian Canon.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:15 PM
 
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neither is faith alone.
Is "he who does not work does not eat" in our bibles?

Obviously, from this thread we are to use our God-given common sense, and of course be totally honest and sincere.

The bible translations LOST a few things. No, there is not so much mistranslation that our salvation message can be harmed by it. However, it remains true.

The perfect example is "resist not evil." Good grief! of course are supposed to resist evil, not lay down for it, and I do mean literally in a lot of imaginable scenarios.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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Is "he who does not work does not eat" in our bibles?

Obviously, from this thread we are to use our God-given common sense, and of course be totally honest and sincere.

The bible translations LOST a few things. No, there is not so much mistranslation that our salvation message can be harmed by it. However, it remains true.

The perfect example is "resist not evil." Good grief! of course are supposed to resist evil, not lay down for it, and I do mean literally in a lot of imaginable scenarios.

Yes - we learned what happens when one does not "rule over" sin or evil, in the case of Cain. Even with a divine warning, Cain messed up.

As you say - translation yields several possibilities in this particular passage, though the SB translation gives a good one (albeit one a little Hebraicized for some):
YHWH said to Kayin:
Why are you upset? Why has your face fallen?
Is it not thus:
If you intend good, bear-it-aloft,
but if you do not intend good,
at the entrance is sin, a crouching demon,
toward you his lust -
but you can rule over him.
(Genesis 4:6-7)
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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Is "he who does not work does not eat" in our bibles?

Obviously, from this thread we are to use our God-given common sense, and of course be totally honest and sincere.

The bible translations LOST a few things. No, there is not so much mistranslation that our salvation message can be harmed by it. However, it remains true.

The perfect example is "resist not evil." Good grief! of course are supposed to resist evil, not lay down for it, and I do mean literally in a lot of imaginable scenarios.

Is "he who does not work does not eat" in our bibles?
2 Thessalonians 3:10: "For even when we were with you, we would give you this command:
If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat
."
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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You're right. It's easy to get sidetracked. Here's one. People say that the Bible says "Money is the root of all evil." It doesn't. It says, "For the love of money is theroot of all evil." There is nothing inherently evil about money.
That's right Katz! Another very misquoted scripture. I forgot about that one!

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Nice thread, mzjamiedawn!
Very accurate and illuminating (for many) no doubt!

I have known many people to confuse the reference to "this book" (the Book of Revelation) with "this book: the Bible" (the collection of books that contains it), especially since it comes at the very end of the Christian Canon.
Thank you whoppers. I think you're right about Revelation being put at the end! I wonder if it was the first book in the NT, if the scripture wouldn't be misquoted as much...
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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There is no "sinners prayer" in the bible.
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