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Do CU's just go to "regular" Christian churches and believe in virtually all of the same things, except they stay closeted on their beliefs in the doctrine of Hell, as not to offend their fellow believers?
I suspect that some do attend 'regular' church and stay closeted, and I agree with Paul H that some do not attend 'regular' church because they are questioning 'the system' and starting another denomination will be part of the 'system''.
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I've been to a couple UU "churches", and they are NOTHING close to what CU's believe. The UU churches seemed like nothing more than an LGBT gathering center. There was nothing Biblical about them. They seemed like a liberal science workshop.
I agree with you here that the UU does not have an overtly christian base --- the focus is not biblical, but more about talking about society and politics.
Because it is another form of organized religion and most Christian Universalists do not fit well with it.
What are you referring to here with your quote PW? Could you elaborate just a little?
There seem to be tons of Christian churches of all denominations in the U.S. I am just wondering why CU's have not began a movement that focuses on becoming a presence in the community like all the other denominations have. I would like to attend a CU service.
I agree with Paul H that some do not attend 'regular' church because they are questioning 'the system' and starting another denomination will be part of the 'system''.
Churches, as all organizations, join a "system" where everybody who believes in the same tenets of a particular faith or creed can join together in ceremony. Why is this a bad thing? Different is different. What exactly does the term "system" mean as you refer to it?
What are you referring to here with your quote PW? Could you elaborate just a little?
There seem to be tons of Christian churches of all denominations in the U.S. I am just wondering why CU's have not began a movement that focuses on becoming a presence in the community like all the other denominations have. I would like to attend a CU service.
There are i believe two churches that teach universal salvation in my home town of Dallas Texas. They are both located in downtown Dallas proper.
Here is a list of various churches and ministers and groups around the world that are members of the Christian Universalist Assossiation.
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MINISTERS ORDAINED BY THE CUA
Rev. Jose A. Castillo Bayonet
Old Bridge, New Jersey
Rev. M. Donne Hayden
Cincinnati, Ohio
Rev. L. Fred Howard
Macon, Georgia
Rev. Tim King
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Rev. Susan Smith
Hickory, North Carolina
Rev. David Spatz
Pasadena, Maryland
Rev. Eric Stetson
Burke, Virginia
CHURCHES & MEETING GROUPS
United States
Alabama
Shepherd's Heart Fellowship
Leader: Rhett Ellis
Mobile, AL
251-656-6984
Arizona
Full Circle Fellowship
Brian Patterson, Pastor
Peoria, AZ
California
618 Ministries
Leaders: Joseph and Claudia Arechiga
8979 Cayuga Ave.
Sun Valley, CA 91352
818-767-2404
District of Columbia
Universalist National Memorial Church
1810 16th St. NW
Washington, DC 20009-3304
202-387-3411
Florida
New Beginning Ministries
Mary Lou Houllis, Pastor
4004 Bonita Rd.
Holiday, FL 34691
727-937-3647
Mailing address: P.O. Box 31, Tarpon Springs, FL 34688
Interior Coverings Ministry
Rev. Audrey Drummonds
1039 Carriage Park Dr.
Valrico, FL 33596
813-495-6168
Illinois
New Life Ministries
Raymond G. Janisch, Pastor
15 So. Catherine Ave.
La Grange, IL 60525
708-354-1955
The Sacred Way Fellowship
Rev. Elvin Holloway & Rev. Shawn Bale
111 E 1st Ave
Monmouth, IL 61462
309-734-0950
Mailing address: PO Box 81, Monmouth, IL 61462
Iowa
United Methodist Church - Alexander
Rev. Kalen Fristad
P.O. Box 19
Dows, IA 50071
515-852-3325
First Presbyterian Church - Dows
Rev. Kalen Fristad
P.O. Box 19
Dows, IA 50071
515-852-3325
United Methodist Church - Dows
Rev. Kalen Fristad
P.O. Box 19
Dows, IA 50071
515-852-3325
Louisiana
Abiding Hope Fellowship
David Davis, Pastor
7935 Director Dr.
Baton Rouge, LA 70817
225-751-4673
Michigan
God's Holy Universal Outreach Church
Pastor Calvin Jones Jr.
20109 Archdale St.
Detroit, MI 48235
248-678-5109
Light of the World Ministries
Michael & Diane Nevins
4880 Brooklyn Rd
Jackson, Michigan 49201
517-764-4221 mikenevins@gmail.com
New Mexico
Grace Walk Home Meeting
Leader: Robert E. (Bobby) Martin
10404 City Lights Dr NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-856-6171
New York
First Parish Society of the Messiah
Garry J. Rumrill, Chaplain
P.O. Box 255
Ilion, NY 13357
315-534-2782
North Carolina
New Temple Ministries
Bishop Steve Rich
5996 Welborn Rd.
Trinity, NC 27370
336-434-6561
Oklahoma
The Living Room Church
Rev. Ron Robinson
6514 N. Peoria Ave.
Turley, OK 74126
918-794-4637
Pennsylvania
Rising Son Ministry
Rev. Elizabeth Ketterer
1807 Vollmer Drive
Glenshaw, PA 15116
Texas
Bushland Community Church
Dr. G. A. Roach, Pastor
2712 John Dr.
Amarillo, TX 79110
806-576-7533
Open Door Fellowship
Charles Slagle, Pastor
Fort Worth, TX
817-798-2501
Breath of God International Ministries
Pastor Sue Powell
17066 FM 365
Beaumont, TX 77705
409-794-2359
Freedom Worship Center
John Adair, Sr. Pastor
11704 Cypress N. Houston
Cypress, Texas 77429
281-970-9810
Christian Unitarian Free Church
Rev. John Bostock
2109 Postoffice Street #147
Galveston, TX 77550
Saint Brendan's Church
The Rev. Walter L. McFadden, Pastor-Anamchara
1602 W. 43rd St.
Houston, TX 77018
281-813-1768
Virginia
Ecumenical Benedictines of Heartsong Hermitage
Rev. Tracey Christopher, H.H.
PO Box 190
Alberta, VA 23821
434-604-6085
Washington
Simple Salvation Church of God
General Pastor Jimmie W Warren
2001 E Pacific
Spokane, WA 99207
509-448-4111
Kenya
Christian Mercy Community Universalist Kenya
Reverend Cyrus Bosire Ogega
299,Ogembo 40204 Kisii-Kenya
Phone: +254 722 985 662
Kiangombe KCUA Church
Leaders: Mr & Mrs Peter Ny'Osaka
P.O. Box 595
Keroka-Kenya Code No.40202
Phone: +254723060885
Churches Recently Planted:
Chiengu KCUA Church
Ekenyoru KCUA Church
Metembe KCUA Church
Esani KCUA Church
Ikonge KCUA Church
Kiobegi KCUA Church
Gianchore KCUA Church
Riokebeni KCUA Church
Nyamasibi KCUA Church
Keroka KCUA Church
Nyamakoroto KCUA Church
Gekano KCUA Church
Mokomoni KCUA Church
Kionduso KCUA Church
Gesusu KCUA Church
Matangi KCUA Church
Nyamiranga KCUA Church
Taraacha KCUA Church
United Kingdom
St. Luke's Church
Contact: Rev. Ravi Holy
South Battersea, London
Australia
Light of the World Ministries
Tony & Martha den Hartog
PO Box 215, Emerald 3782
Victoria, Australia
Australia Phone: (61) 3-97553765
United States Phone: 517-764-4221 anthony.denhartog7@gmail.com
Indonesia
Tridharma Manunggal Church
Rev. Totok S. Wiryasaputra
Gowok RT 01, RW 01, Kebonharjo, Samigaluh 55673
Kulon Progo, DI Yogyakarta, Indonesia
Phone: 62-0274-886-306
However, i understand what Phazelwood is saying. At least my experience is that many CU's who i see around on the internet are to a large extent independent believers, that is to say independent of any denominational observances and or of formal religious practices. And yet there are still many more who go to regular services within various denominations who are closeted because of fear of being excommunicated.
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I personally believe we are going to see more and more CU churches as time passes. This is something the Lord has been showing me over the past month or so actually and dealing with me about.
God is saving the best for last.
This is why so much of mainstream Christianity is becoming tiresome to many people, they know there is more to God and they are hungering and thirsting for it.
God himself is setting the stage for people who will walk away from these 'den of thieves' and are walking away from them as we speak. They are sick and tired and know there is MORE TO GOD. Many just do not know what it is yet. So, sometimes they go from church to church, denomination to denomination seeking and never finding.
Everything is organized, timed, and controlled in 'church as usual' for the most part. The Holy Spirit is not free to reign and rule as it should be. People know there is more than the milk and watered down messages they hear over and over. They are searching for deeper wells and someone who is speaking LIFE and not death, hell, and condemnation.
God has been setting the stage for sometime now. More and more are coming to believe in this Universal Love/Salvation of all men everyday.
I believe the reason there are not even more CU churches has do to with God's timing. There is a time and season for everything and even God is in control of that.
Eventually CU will be on television and radio, anywhere the message has not been heard a lot, if at all or just shunned.
People are tired of 'church as usual', not so much 'church'. I know God has saved the best for last and has plans that we can not even imagine right now.
I am wondering why the CU's don't do "home Church" as the early Christians did..They would be like minded Christians gathered together to worship together. I do imagine there are many who probably already do this...somewhere
I am wondering why the CU's don't do "home Church" as the early Christians did..They would be like minded Christians gathered together to worship together. I do imagine there are many who probably already do this...somewhere
Actually, many do do home churches. It is a matter of how God leads you, some do home church and others are called to 'buildings'. The point is to gather as it is pleasing to the Lord no matter where.
Actually, many do do home churches. It is a matter of how God leads you, some do home church and others are called to 'buildings'. The point is to gather as it is pleasing to the Lord no matter where.
I agree It always amazes me some of the places I encounter/meet with His church
There are a couple here is Seattle that I know of.
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The point is to gather as it is pleasing to the Lord no matter where.
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Don't let the system of Churchianity fool us. Do the research.
I am about to push through Preterism and go further down the rabbit's hole.
They won't know what to call me Many others are doing the same.
Christ is not complex, He doesn't hate, He doesn't despise. He loves.
He wants us to do the same....no matter what.
Going on vacation, so I will see you all soon. Blessings.
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It always amazes me some of the places I encounter/meet with His church
Many others are doing the same.
