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Baloney. The texts we have today date back to as early as about 125 AD. We have enough texts to compare that we can tell they have not been corrupted. The only one believing that nonsense is people that want to deny what it teaches.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
" Everyone has altered the Bible to suit their agenda." ......... everyone that is except the people with the agenda.
Typical of this crowd (those who approve of homosexual behavior that God calls perversion and finds detestable) always blaming someone \ something other than themselves.
Just to make it clear of the crowd being refered to.
Yes you are correct, the bible has multiple reinterpretations wheter its the John Wycliffe Bible (1395), 1525 Tyndale bible, 1611 KJV and every other bibles after that, but each translation is to make it easier to understand and translate it keeping the book holy, not manipulating it to make there sinful desires okay in the eyes of God.
So its not okay for heterosexuals to be sexually active outside of marriage and going from one person to the next and thats considered sexual immorality, but the gay community gets a free pass on sexual immorality because God made them that way..GTHOH
I'm in a committed relationship. We even had a personal marriage ceremony. It isn't my fault that I'm not allowed to go get a civil marriage license (yet). Maybe if SSM were legal there would be fewer homosexuals having sex outside of marriage.
In our eyes, we are married, so there is no "sin".
Baloney. The texts we have today date back to as early as about 125 AD. We have enough texts to compare that we can tell they have not been corrupted. The only one believing that nonsense is people that want to deny what it teaches.
Well no, they don't. Most are from the 4th century or later.
You are refering to a postage-stamp sized piece called Papyrus 52.
Got one. Have a degree in Biblical studies. And you are simply wrong. You have to twist the Bible up like a pretzel to arrive at that conclusion.
Seriously? Have you never looked up the Hebrew word qadesh which was translated in the KJV as 'sodomites'? It's been corrected in most english versions as 'shrine prostitute' or 'temple prostitute' or 'cult prostitute' - even most conservative translations.
God has tolerated MULTIPLE reinterpretations of the bible. Every sect has their own interpretation of the bible, get over it.
Besides, how do you know YOURS is the correct translation? Unless you read it in the original Hebrew, and Greek you are relying on the translations of translations, of reinterpretations, of edits.
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Originally Posted by Vizio
Baloney. The texts we have today date back to as early as about 125 AD. We have enough texts to compare that we can tell they have not been corrupted. The only one believing that nonsense is people that want to deny what it teaches.
See now, I put these to posts together and Vizio pretty well sums it up.
People who don't like what the Bible says have this need to say the Bible is bunk. Our modern translations are not a retranslation, but are based on manuscripts. Some of which date to 125 AD.
Degrees are limited to a certain denomination.
If you keep declaring Mary wasn't the mother of God and Co-Redemptrix you won't even make it trough the first semester in a Catholic university.
Likewise those who reject predestination don't really have a chance at a university based on Calvinism.
Bart Ehrman who has written text books as well as many books for the lay public on the New Testament and teaches Biblical studies at the University of Nth Carolina, made some 'interesting' comments in some of his books about teaching students from evangelical biblical 'non-errancy' backgrounds. When confronted with the obvious errors and contradictions, some of them don't cope too well.
See now, I put these to posts together and Vizio pretty well sums it up.
People who don't like what the Bible says have this need to say the Bible is bunk. Our modern translations are not retranslationsm, but are based on manuscripts. Some of which date to 125 AD.
That's a rather deceitful and misleading statement. Or perhaps just an uneducated misinformed one.
Please give us a list of these 'some of which date to 125 AD' manuscripts you claim - other than the tiny postage-stamp sized piece of papyrus called P52.
Yes you are correct, the bible has multiple reinterpretations wheter its the John Wycliffe Bible (1395), 1525 Tyndale bible, 1611 KJV and every other bibles after that, but each translation is to make it easier to understand and translate it keeping the book holy, not manipulating it to make there sinful desires okay in the eyes of God.
So its not okay for heterosexuals to be sexually active outside of marriage and going from one person to the next and thats considered sexual immorality, but the gay community gets a free pass on sexual immorality because God made them that way..GTHOH
So you must be really happy that same-sex marriage is now legal in 9 states in the US so that those loving committed gay and lesbian couples are no longer having sex outside of marriage.
So you must be really happy that same-sex marriage is now legal in 9 states in the US so that those loving committed gay and lesbian couples are no longer having sex outside of marriage.
<---Yeah look at all that joy on my face.
From the OT to the NT the bible speaks against it and all other forms of sexual immorality as well, but mainly the bible speaks out against Adultery. There is no verse anywhere in the bible where marriage is recognized between anything other than a man and woman PERIOD.
If you where to put all who practice the gay lifestyle in there own city and they couldnt leave that city and they could only practice there lifestyle, come back in 80-100yrs and they will be no one alive since there is no way a man and procreate with a man or a woman with a woman. If you want to be gay fine, but dont try to rip apart God's holy word so you can fit into something the scriptures says is wrong.
It doesnt matter what we think...the only thing that matters is what God thinks and what he demands from his word.
That's a rather deceitful and misleading statement. Or perhaps just an uneducated misinformed one.
Please give us a list of these 'some of which date to 125 AD' manuscripts you claim - other than the tiny postage-stamp sized piece of papyrus called P52.
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the second New Testament manuscript in the Chester Beatty collection (P. II), and was a codex that contained the Pauline Epistles dating c. 200. What remains today of the manuscript is roughly 85 out of 104 leaves consisting of Romans chapters 5-6, 8-15, all of Hebrews, Ephesians, Galatians, Philippians, Colossians, virtually all of 1–2 Corinthians and 1 Thessalonians 1-2, 5.
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<---Yeah look at all that joy on my face. 
