Antichrist in Europe (tradition, Epistles, church, Messiah)
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I was listening to the Moody Broadcasting Network yesterday, and the topic was the antichrist. I've heard three things so far: The antichrist will rise out of Europe. The antichirst will make a convenant with Israel, creating peace, and therefore the antichrist will declare themselves to be God. Somewhat related, Russia will invade Israel. What other characteristics of the antichrist are there, and what other global events will take place?
I was listening to the Moody Broadcasting Network yesterday, and the topic was the antichrist. I've heard three things so far: The antichrist will rise out of Europe. The antichirst will make a convenant with Israel, creating peace, and therefore the antichrist will declare themselves to be God. Somewhat related, Russia will invade Israel. What other characteristics of the antichrist are there, and what other global events will take place?
Of the three above :"will" happen only
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The antichrist will make a covenant with Israel, creating peace, and therefore the antichrist will declare themselves to be God.
is correct. If you modify to read "could" for Europe producing the Anti-Christ and "might" be Russia who attacks Israel I would agree. No where in scripture is Europe or Russia mentioned, but the locations are plausible. (opinion)
This is a very complex study, and Revelation should be approached in context of scripture, which includes the book of Daniel. I might suggest some additional reseach into publications that help explain some of the "language" and visions of John.
The Anti-Christ will be a peace maker. He will come as light. He will claim himself at first... a prophet. Then as god. Many will rally around him. He will perform miracles and wonders, but always true to his nature, a deceiver, a liar, an accuser.... especially an accuser.
I believe (not everyone agrees) that the Temple will be rebuilt before the Rapture... but more importantly (the Rapture) it will come as a "theif in the night". (without warning for those not on gaurd).
Job 24:14 Before daybreak the murderer rises up; he kills the poor and the needy; in the night he is like a thief.
Satan attacks the poor (blind without the spirit) and the needy (those who do not understand). They are the non believers.
1Th 5:2 For you know quite well that the day of the Lord will come in the same way as a thief in the night.
Jesus will do the same thing... but take home the believers.(Rapture)
13:10 Then the disciples came to him and said, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 13:11 He replied, “You have been given the opportunity to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but they have not.
Mat 13:13 For this reason I speak to them in parables: Although they see they do not see, and although they hear they do not hear nor do they understand.
I hate to sound so pessimistic but do you know how hard it would be for a European to broker peace between the Isrealites and the Palestinians/Muslims?
No one really knows,but I believe the anti- christ will be from islam. The islamic faith is looking for the return of their mahdi who will be the savior of mankind. They are expecting his return at any time. He will bring peace to and rule over the world...sound familiar? Sounds alot like the Christian Messiah except he is from islam, who opposes
Jesus as Gods Son who is the true Messiah. The islamic mahdi is to islam what Jesus Christ is to Christians and the mahdi mirrors Christ in a lot of ways. He will be of middle eastern descent, bring peace, be a savior, rule the world. That is why he is called the anti- christ and fools a lot of people.
Except the madhi is a silly tradition of a religion with no spiritual authority. Why put stock in what they believe, even going as far as to intepret your Christian prophecies through islamic traditions?
The word antichrist is found in the entire bible FOUR times. Lets see what they have to say concerning it:
"Dear Children, this is the last hour. and as you have heard the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us." 1 John 2:18
"Who is the liar. It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist- he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the father also." 1 John 2:22
"..but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." 1 John 4:3
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."
2 John 7
According to these verses:
There are MANY antichrists, not one super boogie man of a bad guy.
John even refers to people who had gone out from them (the church/body of believers) but were false professors of Christ as antichrists.
The antichrist was already in the world in the 1st century when John wrote his epistles!
The antichrist is a spirit that denies that Jesus is God in the flesh!
The problem is, people see the beast of Revelation 13, and the "man of sin" and "son of perdition" that paul and peter referred to and asssume they all mean the same thing. They then roll them all together into this one composite character that must be super evil, and through the faulty interpretation of scripture that Dispensationalism is; they associate this monster they have created in their minds with the end of the world. THE BIBLE NEVER SAYS THAT THE ANTICHRIST WILL MAKE A COVENANT WITH ISREAL, OR BREAK IT, OR DECLARE HIMSELF GOD. You find one verse that manages to say that, and I will take my rantings elsewhere.
Except the madhi is a silly tradition of a religion with no spiritual authority. Why put stock in what they believe, even going as far as to intepret your Christian prophecies through islamic traditions?
Well Christians are the updated versions of Judaism and the Islam could be considered the updated version of the Christians.
So the Jews (with the exception of the Messianic Jew) could say: who believes in Christianity and the Islam, they are a silly tradition with no spiritual authority.
And the Christians could say about the Jews and Islam: who believes in Judaism and the Islam, they are a silly tradition with no spiritual authority.
And the Muslim could say about Judaism and Christianity: who believes in Judaism and Christianity, they are a silly tradition with no spiritual authority.
Except all 3 religions have the OT in common and:
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The Quran insists strongly that 'there shall be no coercion in matters of faith, and commands Muslims to respect the beliefs of Jews and Christians, whom the Quran calls ahl al-kitab, a phrase usually translated 'People of the Book' but which more is accurately rendered: 'people of an earlier revelation':
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Do not argue with the followers of earlier revelation otherwise than in a most kindly manner -unless it be such of them as are bent on evil-doing -and say:'We believe in that which has been bestowed upon you; for our God and your God is one and the same, and it is unto Him that we [all] surrender ourselves.
Quran 29:46
Yikes. Thats your opinion bro.
As a Christian, I see the continuity and fulfillment of Judaism IN Christianity. Islam is far more dubious in origin, and hardly an update to Christianity.
The Old Testament foreshadowed the coming of Christ, and the New Covenant. What foreshadowed the coming of Islam?
The Old Testament foreshadowed the coming of Christ, and the New Covenant. What foreshadowed the coming of Islam?
Muslims believe Muhammad to be the last prophet, so I guess the OT? Do you see the similarities now?
All 3 religions only bicker about who the last prophet is.
[quote=fromcenFL;1761653]The word antichrist is found in the entire bible FOUR times. Lets see what they have to say concerning it:
"Dear Children, this is the last hour. and as you have heard the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us." 1 John 2:18
"Who is the liar. It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist- he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the father also." 1 John 2:22
"..but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." 1 John 4:3
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."
2 John 7
According to these verses:
There are MANY antichrists, not one super boogie man of a bad guy.
John even refers to people who had gone out from them (the church/body of believers) but were false professors of Christ as antichrists.
The antichrist was already in the world in the 1st century when John wrote his epistles!
The antichrist is a spirit that denies that Jesus is God in the flesh!
The problem is, people see the beast of Revelation 13, and the "man of sin" and "son of perdition" that paul and peter referred to and asssume they all mean the same thing. They then roll them all together into this one composite character that must be super evil, and through the faulty interpretation of scripture that Dispensationalism is; they associate this monster they have created in their minds with the end of the world. THE BIBLE NEVER SAYS THAT THE ANTICHRIST WILL MAKE A COVENANT WITH ISREAL, OR BREAK IT, OR DECLARE HIMSELF GOD. You find one verse that manages to say that, and I will take my rantings elsewhere.[/quot
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Do you see the similarities now?
