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No one denies that Christ bore our sins in His body . . . the scourging and crucifixion was horrendous and barbaric . . . because we were savage and barbaric (sinful) This is what is NOT true. God required no payment for anything and there is no hell . . . as you or the ET'ers define it. Those who have NOT "loved God and each other" daily and repented when they didn't . . . will be refined in the consuming fire of God's love with weeping and gnashing of teeth for their ignorance and obliviousness to His love and our obligations to love. But they will be "saved as by fire" when the dross is destroyed from their Spirits.
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Originally Posted by Amaznjohn
Sounds like a new theology to me.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
That's because men cannot comprehend the existence of their errors, when to deeply immersed in them.
Thank you, Jerwade. Well said. It is indeed virtually impossible without the aid of Christ's Holy Spirit guiding them to what God has "written in our hearts." It is fear that keeps them from trusting what is in their hearts. Fear promoted by the churches and teachers who bear a heavy burden.
No one denies that Christ bore our sins in His body . . . the scourging and crucifixion was horrendous and barbaric . . . because we were savage and barbaric (sinful) This is what is NOT true. God required no payment for anything and there is no hell . . . as you or the ET'ers define it. Those who have NOT "loved God and each other" daily and repented when they didn't . . . will be refined in the consuming fire of God's love with weeping and gnashing of teeth for their ignorance and obliviousness to His love and our obligations to love. But they will be "saved as by fire" when the dross is destroyed from their Spirits.
God required that the penalty for sin be paid as the Scriptures teach. Salvation is free because Jesus paid the price that the Father required. Redemption means to be purchased back.
Ephesians 1:7In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace
Ephesiahs 1:14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.
Titus 2:14who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.
1 Corinthians 7:23You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.
1 Peter 1:18knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19]but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
Acts 2:23 this Man (Jesus), delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.
The lake of fire is quite real as shown in Scripture (Revelation 20:10-15 for example). And it is not about refinement.
That's because men cannot comprehend the existence of their errors, when to deeply immersed in them.
Amen!!! That's why we have scripture to set the record straight. I can sit here and chant the same words over again or I can provide scripture. I'll take Gods word any day.
That's because men cannot comprehend the existence of their errors, when to deeply immersed in them.
So true. Immersed in them(the error of my way)........I saw the works of the LORD,
his wonderful deeds in the deep(when i was at my worst)Psalm 107:24
I reeled and staggered like drunken man( tossed to and fro by the contradictory doctrines of men)
At my wits end(with all the religious nonsense I had come to believe in)
Then i cried out to the LORD in my trouble,
and he brought me out of my distress.
He stilled the storm to a whisper;
the waves of the sea were hushed.
I was glad when it grew calm,
and he guided me to my desired haven. Psalm 107:27-30
Amen!!! That's why we have scripture to set the record straight. I can sit here and chant the same words over again or I can provide scripture. I'll take Gods word any day.
Those who deny that Christ bore their sins in His body and paid the price for them remain under condemnation and are on their way to hell.
Which 'hell' ?_______
Jesus was 'on his way' to the 'Bible's hell' the day Jesus died according to Acts 2 vs 27,31,32
According to Revelation [ 20 vs 13,14 ] is the Bible's hell is temporary because after everyone in hell is 'delivered up', meaning resurrected out of hell, then emptied-out hell is cast vacant into that symbolic 'second death'.
So, besides Jesus being resurrected out of hell, everyone else in hell will also be resurrected out of hell.- Rev. 1 v 18
So, how is anyone condemned to hell ?
Jesus was 'on his way' to the 'Bible's hell' the day Jesus died according to Acts 2 vs 27,31,32
According to Revelation [ 20 vs 13,14 ] is the Bible's hell is temporary because after everyone in hell is 'delivered up', meaning resurrected out of hell, then emptied-out hell is cast vacant into that symbolic 'second death'.
So, besides Jesus being resurrected out of hell, everyone else in hell will also be resurrected out of hell.- Rev. 1 v 18
So, how is anyone condemned to hell ?
The English word 'hell' is more appropriately applied to the lake of fire which is the final abode of those who die without having accepted Christ as Savior, rather than to Hades which is a temporary place of confinement.
The English word 'hell' is more appropriately applied to the lake of fire which is the final abode of those who die without having accepted Christ as Savior, rather than to Hades which is a temporary place of confinement.
Actually, the word hell was associated with an underground pit.
In the Old English, it defined a "cold" place for storing food.
"A food storage cellar is usually covered with dirt."
Hell, in the Biblical sense, is simply the common grave of all mankind.
Where all activity has ceased; and potatoes, do not become french fries.
Actually, the word hell was associated with an underground pit.
In the Old English, it defined a "cold" place for storing food.
"A food storage cellar is usually covered with dirt."
Hell, in the Biblical sense, is simply the common grave of all mankind.
Where all activity has ceased; and potatoes, do not become french fries.
I am aware of the origins of the English word 'hell'.
Neither Hades or the lake of fire are the common grave of all mankind.
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