Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Hi Pandora. Actually Armageddon is both an event and a place. The event is named after the place. Armageddon is not the end of the world as Hollywood portrays it to be and as popular opinion believes it to be.
Armageddon is the name of the final military campaign of the Tribulation which will climax when Jesus Christ returns and delivers the Jews from the combined forces of Satan's entire kingdom of darkness. Near the end of the Tribulation Satan will try to destroy the Jews by gathering together the Gentile armies of the world against Israel (note that since 1948 there has been a nation [or state] of Israel in preparation for the coming Tribulation).
The geographic locations in which the battle of Armageddon will take place is described in the Bible as being
1. Jerusalem (Zech. 12:2-11; 14:2-3);
2. Megiddo and the plains of Esdraelon (Rev. 16:16);
3. Jehoshaphat Valley, east of Jerusalem (Ezek. 39:11; Joel 3:2, 12);
4. Edom (Isa.34:1-16; 63:1-6).
The battle of Armageddon will as Ezek. 38:9 says, cover the land.
Revelation 20:11-21 speaks of Jesus' return from heaven at the end of the Tribulation to destroy Satan's gathered forces against the Jews and which attempt to oppose His return.
- Scripturally I believe that is a misconception of timing and events.
Many have mixed it up.
"the battle of that great day of God Almighty"
At "the place called in hebrew Armageddon" - Rev.14,16
Being, when the 10 kings & the beast "Make War With The Lamb
and The Lamb Will Overcome them for He is Lord of lords and King of kings
AND Those Who Are With Him (armies in heaven) called chosen and faithful" (?) - Rev.17:12-14
IS Rev.19:11-21
The beast & the 10 one hour as kings don't gather to come against Israel.
"the beast the kings of the earth and their armies GATHERED TOGETHER TO MAKE WAR
AGAINST HIM WHO SAT ON THE HORSE AND AGAINST HIS ARMY (armies of heaven). Rev.19:14,19
- By the time of Rev.19? There is no state of Israel left on earth.
- Scripturally I believe that is a misconception of timing and events.
Many have mixed it up.
"the battle of that great day of God Almighty"
At "the place called in hebrew Armageddon" - Rev.14,16
Being, when the 10 kings & the beast "Make War With The Lamb
and The Lamb Will Overcome them for He is Lord of lords and King of kings
AND Those Who Are With Him (armies in heaven) called chosen and faithful" (?) - Rev.17:12-14
IS Rev.19:11-21
The beast & the 10 one hour as kings don't gather to come against Israel.
"the beast the kings of the earth and their armies GATHERED TOGETHER TO MAKE WAR
AGAINST HIM WHO SAT ON THE HORSE AND AGAINST HIS ARMY (armies of heaven). Rev.19:14,19
- By the time of Rev.19? There is no state of Israel left on earth.
Israel will never be destroyed. As Zechariah 14 shows, the nation Israel is very much in existence after the Tribulation. The arrival of Jesus Christ to defeat the armies which are attacking Jerusalem prevents the destruction of Israel. During the Millennium Jesus will reign from the throne of David in Jerusalem and as Zech 14:16 says, those who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
As for Rev. 17:12-14, the ten kings are heads of the nations which will form an alliance in the Middle East that will support the antichrist - the beast. They do in fact come together against Jerusalem. And when Christ returns, they will war against Him but will be defeated as Rev. 17:14 states. Read Zechariah chapters 12 and 14.
See God has then released His wrath of the men who have the mark of the beast and on them they worship the image of the beast ...So these vials of judgment is to be released , as men reject the Lord , and His commands which gives the beast authority of sin to to judged ..... So God released the beast to go and gather them to the battle of the great day against the interest of God Almighty ...... The Bible does not tell of the fate of the people in the battle or the people of Israel, but if Israel had any discernment then they should send in a nuclear bomb on their own land and destroy all the armies who came to take Israel , as the outcome of this battle could be fatal for Israel, and this nation......... See there will be another great battle against the interest of God Almighty in the valley of hammon-gog just before the great Judgment thousand years from now , which a somewhat a nuclear bomb will be used to destroy this conflict, which Gods people will be surrounded by the enemies ...... See curses are developed , God has Jesus and His Blood of the cross to correct the curse , or then if people control and keep the curses and will never bend then God wrath will eventually come and bring closure
Israel will never be destroyed. As Zechariah 14 shows, the nation Israel is very much in existence after the Tribulation. The arrival of Jesus Christ to defeat the armies which are attacking Jerusalem prevents the destruction of Israel. During the Millennium Jesus will reign from the throne of David in Jerusalem and as Zech 14:16 says, those who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.
As for Rev. 17:12-14, the ten kings are heads of the nations which will form an alliance in the Middle East that will support the antichrist - the beast. They do in fact come together against Jerusalem. And when Christ returns, they will war against Him but will be defeated as Rev. 17:14 states. Read Zechariah chapters 12 and 14.
- What do you mean Israel will Never be destroyed? When it was destroyed.
And by the time of Rev.11 The Gentiles tread the holy city for 3.5 years.
Jerusalem Will Spiritually Be Called Sodom & Egypt. - (What To Save now?)
Rev.13 the beast was granted to make war with the Saints
AND OVERCOME Them.
Rev.13 The Beast kills those all those who don't worship him. (Jesus doesn't save them)
Rev.14 The Lamb comes back not to fight. (But to receive 144,000 who were killed)
Rev.14:13 'blessed are those who die in The Lord from now on. (God's people are not saved).
No where does it say in The Revelation Of Jesus Christ that Jesus comes to save Israel.
Jesus comes to strike the nations and rule them. - Rev.19
But not to save Israel. It's too late for that by then.
New Day New Deal He comes to set up His kingdom on the throne of David for 1,000 years.
After the 1,000 reign on earth then New Jerusalem Comes.
Then The Kings of the new earth will bring their glory and honor into New Jerusalem. - Rev.21:24
Jesus doesn't come back in Rev.19 to save Israel but to set up His Kingdom.
~ The 10 One Hour AS Kings with the beast?
Don't form an alliance with the middle east.
They form an alliance with The Beast. - Rev.17:13
These 10 one hour as kings are of one "KINGDOM".
They give their 'Kingdom' to the beast. - Rev.17:17
They are the middle-east surrounding Jerusalem that gives the beast their 'kingdom' realm.
They will make her desolate
as The Wilderness Woman the last 3.5 yrs. - Rev.12-Rev.17:16-Rev.17:18
For they no longer want her reigning over them. - Rev.17:18
Armageddon is a place.
Armageddon is the centre of this crucial conflict of world powers. This verse states clearly that this word ARMAGEDDON, MUST be understood in the “HEBREW tongue.” This is very significant. In modern times, the Hebrew language has been revived from a dead language to a living language. It is the national language of Israel - of the Jews
The word ‘Armageddon’ is made up of three Hebrew words presented below in an anglicised form:
Arema – a heap of sheaves
Gai – valley
Dan – judgement.
When all these elements are combined, the word is found to mean:
‘A heap of sheaves in a valley for judgement,’
Joel 3:14--Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision
Joel 3:2 refers to it as the valley of Jehoshaphat. Jehoshaphat means decision/judgment--valley of threshing
Revelation 16:14-18, Joel 3:12-13
Reading Joel in connection to Revelation is recommended for Aramageddon
- What do you mean Israel will Never be destroyed? When it was destroyed.
And by the time of Rev.11 The Gentiles tread the holy city for 3.5 years.
Jerusalem Will Spiritually Be Called Sodom & Egypt. - (What To Save now?)
Rev.13 the beast was granted to make war with the Saints
AND OVERCOME Them.
Rev.13 The Beast kills those all those who don't worship him. (Jesus doesn't save them)
Rev.14 The Lamb comes back not to fight. (But to receive 144,000 who were killed)
Rev.14:13 'blessed are those who die in The Lord from now on. (God's people are not saved).
No where does it say in The Revelation Of Jesus Christ that Jesus comes to save Israel.
Jesus comes to strike the nations and rule them. - Rev.19
But not to save Israel. It's too late for that by then.
New Day New Deal He comes to set up His kingdom on the throne of David for 1,000 years.
After the 1,000 reign on earth then New Jerusalem Comes.
Then The Kings of the new earth will bring their glory and honor into New Jerusalem. - Rev.21:24
Jesus doesn't come back in Rev.19 to save Israel but to set up His Kingdom.
~ The 10 One Hour AS Kings with the beast?
Don't form an alliance with the middle east.
They form an alliance with The Beast. - Rev.17:13
These 10 one hour as kings are of one "KINGDOM".
They give their 'Kingdom' to the beast. - Rev.17:17
They are the middle-east surrounding Jerusalem that gives the beast their 'kingdom' realm.
They will make her desolate
as The Wilderness Woman the last 3.5 yrs. - Rev.12-Rev.17:16-Rev.17:18
For they no longer want her reigning over them. - Rev.17:18
Israel will never cease to exist 'again.' Some of the Jews are back in the land in a state of unbelief. There is since 1948 a nation or state of Israel. They are there in preparation for the Tribulation. At the end of the Tribulation Jerusalem will be attacked by Gentile armies of the antichrist or beast. Jesus will return and destroy those Armies and deliver the Jews. Then all the Jews from around the world will be regathered to Israel in a state of belief.
You might want to familarize yourself with the Old Testament prophecies concerning Israel's future. The Abrahamic, Palestinian, and Davidic covenants, and the New covenant to Israel all will be fulfilled when Christ returns to establish His Kingdom. Take a look at Jeremiah 31:31 for example. And Jeremiah 31:35-37 is God's promise to preserve Israel.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
