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Old 06-09-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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I write this based upon my wife's interaction with a quasi relative's proclamation as a Satanist a self proclaimed establishes-er of a Satanist Church.

My thought here is that my distant in-law is very like a fundamentalist Christian - that is, he reads into the bible all that supports what he believes, and uses that to support his claim.

I am asking that you fundamentalists, you believers in the literal truth of the bible, what do you YOU think? Is Satan SO powerful that He deserves his own Church?
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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I write this based upon my wife's interaction with a quasi relative's proclamation as a Satanist a self proclaimed establishes-er of a Satanist Church.

My thought here is that my distant in-law is very like a fundamentalist Christian - that is, he reads into the bible all that supports what he believes, and uses that to support his claim.

I am asking that you fundamentalists, you believers in the literal truth of the bible, what do you YOU think? Is Satan SO powerful that He deserves his own Church?
You don't really expect ANY Christian, fundamentalist or otherwise, to say Satan "deserves his own church" do you??
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:58 PM
 
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You don't really expect ANY Christian, fundamentalist or otherwise, to say Satan "deserves his own church" do you??
What I wonder is if any Christian believes Satan is SO powerful that He is the equal to God...
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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what i wonder is if any christian believes satan is so powerful that he is the equal to god...
No.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:05 PM
 
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I write this based upon my wife's interaction with a quasi relative's proclamation as a Satanist a self proclaimed establishes-er of a Satanist Church.
You might want to check and see if this is one of the more or less followers of Anton La Vey Welcome to the Church of Satan in which case the name is more for shock value than anything else, though they say that Satan is a figurative representative of the desires of men. I suppose that we could use outdated Freudian terms and say that it is the celebration of the Id as opposed to the Super-ego or, If you want it and can get away with it, go for it. I call him the poor man's Ayn Rand.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:15 PM
 
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Fundamentalism and Satanism?

Adversity already has it's own Church; it's called fear.
Whether the threat is real or imagined it creates panic.

Many believe that they love others to the full extent that God loves them.
However, in their heart and mind, they love only themselves.
Condemning the rest of humanity to hell from their own fears.

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Old 06-10-2013, 05:58 AM
 
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What I wonder is if any Christian believes Satan is SO powerful that He is the equal to God...
He want's to be but cannot. He can deceive some into believing he is.
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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I call him the poor man's Ayn Rand.
Ayn Rand had no room for the poor in her dark heart. Of course you know that, I'm sure.

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Old 06-10-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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Fundamentalism and Satanism?

Adversity already has it's own Church; it's called fear.
Whether the threat is real or imagined it creates panic.

Many believe that they love others to the full extent that God loves them.
However, in their heart and mind, they love only themselves.
Condemning the rest of humanity to hell from their own fears.

Love Comes From God 1John Chapter 4

7Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loves is born of God, and knows God. 8He that loves not knows not God; for God is love. 9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 12No man has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwells in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. 14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. 15Whoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in him, and he in God. 16And we have known and believed the love that God has to us. God is love; and he that dwells in love dwells in God, and God in him. 17Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear: because fear has torment. He that fears is not made perfect in love. 19We love him, because he first loved us. 20If a man say, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar: for he that loves not his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loves God love his brother also.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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What I wonder is if any Christian believes Satan is SO powerful that He is the equal to God...
There might be branches of Christianity that consider the devil as a kind of semi-god, not really all powerful but almost as powerful as God, I think thats also the way the devil is commonly presented in pop culture.

Personally I believe that God created Satan for its purpose, I do neither believe in an entity called Lucifer who is said to once have been an angel. I think what I believe in this regard is also in line with common Jewish belief.
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