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Old 11-07-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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Let me start by saying, I'm not apart nor associate my self with the Israelites you see on Youtube or the street teaching racism and hatred among other things which are not true. I do not blame anyone but my forefathers who chose to disobey the Most High's Commandments therefore leaving their descendants in this predicament we're in today.

2 Kings 22:13 "Go and inquire of the Most High for me and for the people and for all Judah about what is written in this book that has been found. Great is the Most High's anger that burns against us because our fathers have not obeyed the words of this book; they have not acted in accordance with all that is written there concerning us."

Why are people quick to denounce Black Americans,West Indians, Latinos, and Native Americans as the true Israelites when there is so much evidence to prove they are?
Is it just prophecy fulfilling itself or are people just unaware of the truth and don't want to know it?
I mean why else would the Most High allow us to succumb to these horrific events that occurred in history?


If anyone can prove different that people above aren't the true Israelites I'm open to hear it. with substantial evidence of course. I'm still learning.

P.S. - I will also gladly share the vast amount of info I have found to prove this.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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Israelites are all peoples of all nations that are CALLED unto the Father, those who answer the calling.

Christians and jews are not Israelites, just as pagans are gentiles, are not Israelites.

Those of us who know who we are, are Israelites.


Israelites keep the Sabbaths and the Commandments and ordinances.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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Let me start by saying, I'm not apart nor associate my self with the Israelites you see on Youtube or the street teaching racism and hatred among other things which are not true. I do not blame anyone but my forefathers who chose to disobey the Most High's Commandments therefore leaving their descendants in this predicament we're in today.

2 Kings 22:13 "Go and inquire of the Most High for me and for the people and for all Judah about what is written in this book that has been found. Great is the Most High's anger that burns against us because our fathers have not obeyed the words of this book; they have not acted in accordance with all that is written there concerning us."

Why are people quick to denounce Black Americans,West Indians, Latinos, and Native Americans as the true Israelites when there is so much evidence to prove they are?
Is it just prophecy fulfilling itself or are people just unaware of the truth and don't want to know it?
I mean why else would the Most High allow us to succumb to these horrific events that occurred in history?


If anyone can prove different that people above aren't the true Israelites I'm open to hear it. with substantial evidence of course. I'm still learning.

P.S. - I will also gladly share the vast amount of info I have found to prove this.
Does it matter? God is concerned about more than the right bloodlines.

Rom 2:28 "For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. 29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God. "
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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Ummmmmm, because they can distinguish bullwhoop?
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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A true Christian is rare.

You may be surrounded by those in church, but of those, how many actually live a christian life?

A true Jew is rare.

For all it's teachings they can still be pre-judicial towards others that are not Jews, when in reality Judaism makes no reference that those you help should or should not be jews.

Society has twisted Faith; how to have Faith, and how to treat others.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:34 AM
 
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Why do some people:

Not eat meat on Friday's during lent?

Never mix MILK and MEAT when eating?

Don't eat meat at all because a cow is sacred?

Yet many of these people that follow any of the above have NO PROBLEM not helping
others in need, unless they are compensated for it.

Society has twisted Faith; how to have Faith, and how to treat others.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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Why do some people:

Not eat meat on Friday's during lent?
Typically, that's a practice of the Catholic church. In America it's only during Lent -- it's a discretionary decision made by the Bishops.
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Never mix MILK and MEAT when eating?
This is because of an interesting understanding of Exodus 23:19. The prohibition is against boiling a kid in its mother's milk. It then is taken as saying meat and dairy together in the same meal is sinful.

Here is an interesting PDF explaining it. I recently referenced it when I preached a sermon that used this verse.

http://jbq.jewishbible.org/assets/Up...2_Welfted2.pdf
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Don't eat meat at all because a cow is sacred?
That has nothing to do with Christianity.
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Yet many of these people that follow any of the above have NO PROBLEM not helping
others in need, unless they are compensated for it.

Society has twisted Faith; how to have Faith, and how to treat others.
I absolutely agree. Jesus chastised the Pharisees for dedicating their money to the Temple, rather than use it to help their parents.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Does it matter? God is concerned about more than the right bloodlines.

Rom 2:28 "For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. 29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God. "

Has nothing to do with bloodlines. Has to do with understanding through knowledge and wisdom.

No knowledgeable Judean would call himself a jew. Judaism is a mix of Babylon paganism and the original Hebrew just as christianity is.


You are either not called or you don't know who you are. Once you understand you are called to become (or are) an Israelite you are bound to keep the Commandments and Sabbaths.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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Has nothing to do with bloodlines. Has to do with understanding through knowledge and wisdom.

No knowledgeable Judean would call himself a jew. Judaism is a mix of Babylon paganism and the original Hebrew just as christianity is.


You are either not called or you don't know who you are. Once you understand you are called to become (or are) an Israelite you are bound to keep the Commandments and Sabbaths.
No. You really are NEVER called to keep the Commandments. You tell me...what made Abraham righteous? Was it his obedience? Or his faith?
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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No. You really are NEVER called to keep the Commandments. You tell me...what made Abraham righteous? Was it his obedience? Or his faith?

You are wrong, simply put.

To answer your question, faith and obedience, as the Word states.

Put your son on an alter.......then you tell me about obedience.
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