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Old 02-02-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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ever thought about the fact that only a very few will go to heaven? Not only this but this small group of people includes EVERYONE who ever existed, making the chances of an individual person of going to heaven even smaller, does it say in the bible the exact number?
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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NO it doesn't, but you're right. From what I've read, the number in heaven will be relatively small compared to the number of people who ever lived.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:01 PM
 
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Multitudes, upon multitudes; to numerous to count.
But I would say, it's the whole, collectively.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:09 PM
 
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ever thought about the fact that only a very few will go to heaven? Not only this but this small group of people includes EVERYONE who ever existed, making the chances of an individual person of going to heaven even smaller, does it say in the bible the exact number?
Dear eric,
When you die you don't go to heaven. You become dust in the ground (Daniel 12:2) Your quote from Mt 7:14, is about the kingdom of heaven. That is something you must seek, and it is within. (Mt 6:33)
When the Kingdom of heaven becomes the Kingdom of God on earth, is call the "Day of the Lord" which is after the Great Tribulation, which is at the "end of the age". We are now in the "birth bangs" of the Tribulation, and the "end is at hand". The "end of the age, when the dead rise, is when the Kingdom of God will rule the earth for 1000 years. (Dan 12:13)

Daniel 12:13,"But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.
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Old 02-03-2014, 03:29 AM
 
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NO it doesn't, but you're right. From what I've read, the number in heaven will be relatively small compared to the number of people who ever lived.
Unless there is something to reincarnation. ..
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:01 AM
 
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ever thought about the fact that only a very few will go to heaven? Not only this but this small group of people includes EVERYONE who ever existed, making the chances of an individual person of going to heaven even smaller, does it say in the bible the exact number?
Please notice John 3 v 13 because No one who lived before Jesus will ever go to heaven.

That includes King David who died before Jesus died - Acts 2 v 34
That also includes John the Baptist because he was beheaded before Jesus died - Matthew 11 v 11

All who lived before Jesus have the hope of being resurrected back to healthy human physical life on Earth.
All those mentioned at Hebrews chapter 11 did Not see the fulfillment of the promise - Heb. 11 vs 13,39
' Not yet see' because Jesus is the one who will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham - Gen. 12 v 3; 22 v 18; Rev. 22 v 2
All families of Earth, and All nations of Earth will be blessed. Blessed with the healing and curing of Earth's nations during Jesus' coming 1000-year kingdom reign over Earth when Jesus will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.

Remember: those who commit the unforgivable sin [ Matthew 12 v 32; Hebrews 6 vs 4-6; 10 v 26 ] are gone forever.
They are classed as being part of the wicked who will be destroyed forever according to Psalm 92 v 7; Proverbs 2 vs 21,22

Jesus' ransom according to Matthew 20 v 28 covers MANY. It does Not say everyone. The wicked are Not covered by Jesus' ransom death, but end up in a symbolic 'second death' [ destruction ] - Rev. 21 v 8

Those Not called to heaven will be part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth - Psalm 37 vs 11,29
Those sealed ones called to heaven are first fruits being part of a first or earlier resurrection before earth's resurrection.
- Revelation 20 v 6; 5 vs 9,10; 2 v 10; 7 v 3; 14 vs 1 - 4; 1st Cor. 15 vs 20,23
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:27 AM
 
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Dear eric,
When you die you don't go to heaven. You become dust in the ground (Daniel 12:2) Your quote from Mt 7:14, is about the kingdom of heaven. That is something you must seek, and it is within. (Mt 6:33)
When the Kingdom of heaven becomes the Kingdom of God on earth, is call the "Day of the Lord" which is after the Great Tribulation, which is at the "end of the age". We are now in the "birth bangs" of the Tribulation, and the "end is at hand". The "end of the age, when the dead rise, is when the Kingdom of God will rule the earth for 1000 years. (Dan 12:13)
Daniel 12:13,"But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.
In what way do you say God's Kingdom is within ?
According to Daniel 2 v 44 the Kingdom of God is an actual government. Jesus is real king of God's Kingdom for a thousand years over Earth before Jesus hands back God's kingdom to God.- 1st Cor. 15 v 24.

Surely the heavenly Kingdom was Not ' within ' the Pharisees was it ? _____
Jesus was Not addressing his followers but addressing his enemies at Luke 17 vs 20,21.
God's Kingdom would Not have been within those Pharisees, but Jesus was within their midst among them.
Please notice ' after ' Jesus concludes what he says to the Pharisees, then it is Not until verse 22 that Jesus addresses his disciples.

To make it clear about the kingdom for his disciples at Luke 19 vs 11-15 Jesus gave an illustration that the kingdom would Not immediately or instantly appear. First, Jesus as the nobleman, would have to go away to a far country [ heaven ] before Jesus would return in kingdom glory at the coming ' time of separation ' of Matthew 25 vs 31,32.

We are at the threshold of that ' harvest time ' [ wheat/ weed-tares ] ' time of separation ' [ sheep/ goats ]

The precursor to the coming Great tribulation is the ' signal ', so to speak of 1st Thess. 5 vs 2,3, when ' they' [ the powers that be ] are saying, ' Peace and Safety ' or ' Peace and Security ' then sudden destruction comes.
Until that ' final signal ', so to speak, we are still in the pangs of sorrow of global troubles of Matthew 24 v 8
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:35 AM
 
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Multitudes, upon multitudes; to numerous to count.
But I would say, it's the whole, collectively.
The multitudes or majority of dead mankind are the ones who will be resurrected back to healthy physical life on Earth [ John 3 v 13 ], whereas starting with the living multitudes of Rev. 7 v 14 who come through the coming ' great tribulation ' come through alive on Earth, and can continue to remain alive on Earth right into the start of Jesus millennium-long day of reigning over Earth. They are the humble ' sheep ' of Matthew 25 vs 31,32.

Jesus' ransom covers MANY according to Matthew 20 v 28.
The reason Jesus' ransom does Not cover ALL is because some commit the unforgivable sin of Matt. 12 v 32; Heb.6 vs 4-6
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Old 02-03-2014, 05:45 AM
 
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First of all, going to Heaven or Hell is a choice. And actually there are more people that have gone to Heaven than Hell. When lucifer was in Heaven, he only got a third of the angels with him. It's the same way with humanity. Most of humanity will choose to go to Heaven rather than Hell because people want and need hope. Alot of people on this Earth have gone through enough travesty and tribulation in their lives that they hope and long for something better in the afterlife. That is why they yearn for Heaven and God. And in the coming days, more people will be lead to God. We are in the time period called the Kingdom Age. Billions all over the world will be getting saved. His glory shall cover this Earth and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The world will RUN towards him.
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Old 02-03-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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First of all, going to Heaven or Hell is a choice. And actually there are more people that have gone to Heaven than Hell. When lucifer was in Heaven, he only got a third of the angels with him. It's the same way with humanity. Most of humanity will choose to go to Heaven rather than Hell because people want and need hope. Alot of people on this Earth have gone through enough travesty and tribulation in their lives that they hope and long for something better in the afterlife. That is why they yearn for Heaven and God. And in the coming days, more people will be lead to God. We are in the time period called the Kingdom Age. Billions all over the world will be getting saved. His glory shall cover this Earth and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The world will RUN towards him.
The haughty goats of Matthew 25 vs 31,32 at the soon coming ' time of separation ' do Not run towards Jesus.

What does Isaiah 11 vs 3,4 and Revelation 19 vs 11,15 say about those Not running toward Jesus?__________

The humble ' sheep' of Matthew 25 are alive on earth and they are the ones who can remain alive on earth coming through the coming great tribulation of Rev. 7 v 14. The haughty goats go away. The goats end up Not in hell, but in the everlasting punishment of everlasting destruction - 2nd Thess. 1 v 9; Psalm 92 v 7. They do Not repent so they perish- 2nd Peter 3 v9

The ' Bible's hell ' is mankind's grave for the sleeping dead - John 11 vs 11-14; Ecc. 9 v 5; Psalms 115 v 17; 146 v 4; Daniel 12 vs 2,13

Notice how those ' goat '-like ones will end up according to Jeremiah 25 vs 31-33
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