would it still be Heaven to you if none of the people you loved on Earth weren't there? (believing, mystic)
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Thanks. The idea that someone thinks they know what I believe, decides it isn't right, and I need to have my thoughts corrected is just flat-out odd to me. Sooo.... cool beans! Peace out!
Last edited by DewDropInn; 03-17-2014 at 02:37 PM..
" Will it still be Heaven to you if none of the people you loved on Earth weren't not there ?"
Yes, it will be !
Yet the saddest part is unfortunately there will possibly be those in our lives that will not be in heaven with us !
That is why it should be the UTMOST importance to one who has family, friends, who are not saved to pray for them without ceasing and witnessing to these loved ones in our lives the TRUTH of God's will through Jesus Christ.
To tell them they will be in heaven and at the same time they're rejecting the gospel of Jesus Christ is the cruelest thing to tell anyone, and may I add a very selfish act.
And telling people, oh, sure your grandma is in heaven, yet, this grandma threw her fist up to God cursing Him all her life and even on her last breath is another awful thing to say to another, because it's a lie to say their grandma is in heaven !!!
If our loved ones continue choosing in rejecting Jesus Christ their is nothing anyone can do they have made their choice and their destiny is set to be eternally separated from God.
Yet, I believe we will not remember the former things such as those in our life who rejected Jesus.
Because God tells us that....
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away. And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” Rev. 21:4-5
"The first things have pasted away," therefore that is a reminder for the believer of their life on earth, the memories of people, places, etc., will not remember as He wipes it all away, amen !
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. 2Cor. 5:17
You sure have a habit of <snip> what you want to hear ... don't you.
I originally said:
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
I don't share your (apparent) belief that the Bible is the one and only source of knowledge about God and Heaven. I believe it is a source. One of many. Not all of them are written and they are not confined to Christianity.
Jesus' answer to Pilots question "what is truth" does in no way come close to "I'm just one of many sources"
"the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyoneon the side of truth listens to me.”
It's written in my heart that to me Pilot reacted the same way to Jesus .... SMH. You have no clue. I wash my hands of you.
and you <snip> it down to
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
I wash my hands of you.
and that's what you twist it into something about what I'm doing to you ... I wash my hands of you. ... when in fact it's those who reject the truth are saying to Jesus.
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Originally Posted by DewDropInn
Thanks. The idea that someone thinks they know what I believe, decides it isn't right, and I need to have my thoughts corrected is just flat-out odd to me. Sooo.... cool beans! Peace out!
Nope, it's not about me you have issues with, its rather what Jesus said he does and will do:
John 3:18-20 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
and there are no exceptions to the fact that Jesus is the only light ... not a source of many.
Let's see. How do I put this politely? You're wrong. You couldn't be more wrong. I've NO issues with Jesus. Fed the hungry lately? Served the poor? Sheltered the homeless? That's who I follow. Jesus of Nazareth. The man who told us the greatest gift is.... love. If you have a problem with that, that's on you.... not on me. If you don't like my beliefs I suggest you put me on ignore because the greatest gift IS love and love never dies. woo-hoo.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 03-17-2014 at 04:32 PM..
..If our loved ones continue choosing in rejecting Jesus Christ their is nothing
anyone can do they have made their choice and their destiny is set to be
eternally separated from God
So God will just remove the memory of our lost loved ones? Kind of like a spiritual lobotomy? How does God remove the memory though? Like I already asked, if you think back to a time on Earth, God will not allow you to recollect anything? This is big. You fundies insist you'll be the only ones there. How can you so easily dismiss loved ones not making it? He'll remove their memory from you? That just doesn't sit right. It does with you?
So God will just remove the memory of our lost loved ones? Kind of like a spiritual lobotomy? How does God remove the memory though? Like I already asked, if you think back to a time on Earth, God will not allow you to recollect anything? This is big. You fundies insist you'll be the only ones there. How can you so easily dismiss loved ones not making it? He'll remove their memory from you? That just doesn't sit right. It does with you?
No more sorrow, pain, suffering, evil, etc,? A place of pure love and paradise? Yeah, I'm down with that! Aren't you?
As far as who will be there, anyone who has believed on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, for the remission of sin, will be there.
Would it still be Heaven without them? No. Because I don't believe God separates us from those we love.
unless ... where talking about only one source that Jesus says he is and scriptures are the only place to find the truth
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Originally Posted by DewDropInn
I believe it is a source. One of many. Not all of them are written and they are not confined to Christianity.
unless ... Jesus only confines to Christianity
"the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyoneon the side of truth listens to me.”
unless .... Jesus makes no exceptions to loved ones while on earth
John 3:18-20 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemnedalready because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son
unless ... Jesus pronounces a verdict:
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
Instead of me putting you on ignore ... why not put the Christian Forum on your ignore if you're not interested in anything what Jesus says that doesn't make the Beetles hippie but humanistic sound track:
Instead of me putting you on ignore ... why not put the Christian Forum on your ignore if you're not interested in anything what Jesus says that doesn't make the Beetles hippie but humanistic sound track:
Beatles. With an "A".
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The idea that someone thinks they know what I believe, decides it isn't right, and I need to have my thoughts corrected is just flat-out odd to me. Sooo.... cool beans! Peace out!
I wash my hands of you. 
