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Old 01-16-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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**** I AM NOT DATE SETTING, AS NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR OF HIS RETURN*****


Jesus was said to have been born anywhere between 6-4BC and died anywhere between 29-31 AD.

So if the year 2029-2031 would make it 6000 yrs, a pre trib rapture should take place anywhere between 2022-2024 in order to be the final 7 yrs of the 2000yrs since his death.

If the year 2025 comes and there is no rapture, will Christians finally be convinced to be prepared to go through the tribulation and stop thinking they will just disappear and not have to go through any trials?
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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The rapture or snatching away, is not based on date setting but rather base upon when the complement of the nations may be entering:

Romans 11:25-26 For I am not willing for you to be ignorant of this secret, brethren, lest you may be passing for prudent among yourselves, that callousness, in part, on Israel has come, until the complement of the nations may be entering." (26) And thus all Israel shall be saved, according as it is written, Arriving out of Zion shall be the Rescuer. He will be turning away irreverence from Jacob."
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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**** I AM NOT DATE SETTING, AS NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR OF HIS RETURN*****


Jesus was said to have been born anywhere between 6-4BC and died anywhere between 29-31 AD.

So if the year 2029-2031 would make it 6000 yrs, a pre trib rapture should take place anywhere between 2022-2024 in order to be the final 7 yrs of the 2000yrs since his death.

If the year 2025 comes and there is no rapture, will Christians finally be convinced to be prepared to go through the tribulation and stop thinking they will just disappear and not have to go through any trials?
Nope as the so-called rapture is not predicated on any date, but rather God's will.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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**** I AM NOT DATE SETTING, AS NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR OF HIS RETURN*****


Jesus was said to have been born anywhere between 6-4BC and died anywhere between 29-31 AD.

So if the year 2029-2031 would make it 6000 yrs, a pre trib rapture should take place anywhere between 2022-2024 in order to be the final 7 yrs of the 2000yrs since his death.

If the year 2025 comes and there is no rapture, will Christians finally be convinced to be prepared to go through the tribulation and stop thinking they will just disappear and not have to go through any trials?
The rapture of the church will occur when God says that the formation of the Church, called the 'body of Christ' (Rom. 12:5; 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:27-28; Eph. 4:12) is complete. No one knows when that will be. The Church could have been raptured at any point after its beginning and has nothing to do with date setting or having to occur by the 2000th year since Jesus' death and resurrection.

As hard as it is to get people to understand, the Scriptures show that the rapture is pre-tribulational. I've backed this up with Scripture a number of times and it has made no difference to people who are opposed to a pre-tribulational rapture for whatever reason.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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Scripture seems to very clearly teach that Christ's church on earth will be taken out of the world prior to the final 7-year Great Tribulation. Nevertheless, like the Great Tribulation, the Rapture is one of those things that will happen exactly as God has revealed it, regardless of what we think or do - or the accuracy of our understanding.

Since many End Time signs are 'generic' and common to every generation (wars, rumors, quakes, etc), people of every generation are confronted with a reason to believe theirs could be the 'final generation.' Instead of focusing on the mechanics or timing, Christians should be asking, 'How does God intend for His church to respond to these 'signs of the End Times' and coming Rapture/Great Tribulation?' IMO, the defining factor will be one's active response based on one's sense of love and urgency toward others, particularly those who do not yet know Jesus Christ.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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**** I AM NOT DATE SETTING, AS NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR OF HIS RETURN*****


Jesus was said to have been born anywhere between 6-4BC and died anywhere between 29-31 AD.

So if the year 2029-2031 would make it 6000 yrs, a pre trib rapture should take place anywhere between 2022-2024 in order to be the final 7 yrs of the 2000yrs since his death.

If the year 2025 comes and there is no rapture, will Christians finally be convinced to be prepared to go through the tribulation and stop thinking they will just disappear and not have to go through any trials?
I have no idea when it will occur. I believe Scripture supports the idea of a pre-trib rapture..but I honestly don't claim to be able to guess when that will be. This earth might still be spinning 2000 years from now.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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Doesn't anyone bother to read the opening verses of Revelation? It was addressed to seven Asian Churches that have long-since disappeared. That should tell people something.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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The rapture of the church will occur when God says that the formation of the Church, called the 'body of Christ' (Rom. 12:5; 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:27-28; Eph. 4:12) is complete. No one knows when that will be. The Church could have been raptured at any point after its beginning and has nothing to do with date setting or having to occur by the 2000th year since Jesus' death and resurrection.

As hard as it is to get people to understand, the Scriptures show that the rapture is pre-tribulational. I've backed this up with Scripture a number of times and it has made no difference to people who are opposed to a pre-tribulational rapture for whatever reason.
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The KJV Bible teaches a pre-trib rapture of the church
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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The KJV Bible teaches a pre-trib rapture of the church
Nope. Evidence???
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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Doesn't anyone bother to read the opening verses of Revelation? It was addressed to seven Asian Churches that have long-since disappeared. That should tell people something.
First of all, the seven churches of Asia are representative of churches throughout the church-age.

Second, Paul addresses the rapture of the Church in both 1st and 2nd Thessalonians and that it will occur before the day of the Lord which begins with the Tribulation.
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