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Old 05-02-2014, 02:44 AM
 
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If Jesus isnt God, then we have a problem

Deu 6:14 KJV Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which [are] round about you;

Jhn 20:27-28 KJV Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Luk 4:8 KJV And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Heb 1:6 KJV And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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How can Jesus be God when he is worshiped another God?
As God, Jesus is co-equal and co-eternal with the other two Persons of the Trinity. But when Jesus became incarnate, He became the God-man. Fully God and fully man. As a man, God the Father is His God. But as God He is equal with God the Father.

A study on the doctrine of the Hypostatic Union and Kenosis of Jesus Christ may help your understanding.

DOCTRINE OF THE HYPOSTATIC UNION AND KENOSIS
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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Is this possible?
Of course not!

Why contemplate the impossible?
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Of course not!

Why contemplate the impossible?
Possibly in the hopes of learning to distinguish between physical and spiritual?
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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As I've said before, some people get on here thinking they know all about theology and God and then proceed to show their ignorance.

Lk 1:36 Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month.
Lk 1:37 For nothing is impossible with God.”
Lk 1:38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.” Then the angel left her.

Think of it this way. People today would say the resurrection from the dead is impossible. Yet Jesus rose and he raised 3 other people. But if the resurrection is impossible, then all religion is a waste of time because then there is no hope for people. So if people religion is a pointless waste of time, then why are they on a religion forum??? That really makes no sense.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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The Bible says straight out that Jesus is God. John 1:1 says that Jesus is God. Phil. 2:5-6 says that Jesus is God. Hebrews 1:10-12 compared with Psalm 102:5-27 shows that Jesus is God.

The only question is whether or not you will believe the Bible. And clearly, many people do not!!!
Unfortunatelypoor translating and a lack of context consideration lead to that faulty conclusion.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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So Paper remains paper when it burns and changes it's form to ashes?
2 pieces of paper while both paper, are not the same paper. If burned they are both ashes but not the same ashes.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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Would it really make a difference in the message of Jesus? The idea that He had to be a "perfect sacrifice" does not ring true to me and that is the only reason I know of that people have to have Him as God.
He couldn't be God when sacrificed as God can't die and Jesus died. If he didn't die no sacrifice was made as just a dead body was not what was required or given.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:02 PM
 
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I'm not very religious, however I went to catholic school for 12 years and studied theology and religion.


The best way I ever heard the Holy Trinity described is like water. Water can be liquid, gas, or solid. Yet water is still h2o. Same composition, just different forms. Even as a skeptic I had to accept that as the best answer I'd ever got.
Yes, but the Gas was not the water and the ice was not the gas. Nor was their composition exactly the same, etc. Sounds OK until one actually looks at it, then ....................
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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Possibly in the hopes of learning to distinguish between physical and spiritual?
Both of those are possible. I already contemplate both. I don't contemplate the impossible though. Perhaps many need to learn the difference between the possible and the impossible.
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