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Old 07-17-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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Jesus never did anything in "the CHURCH". The tables He turned over were in the Temple.
hahaha....Temples back then were used for houses of worship.

burn your Bible, you obviously don't read it or need it anymore.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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hahaha....Temples back then were used for houses of worship.

burn your Bible, you obviously don't read it or need it anymore.
But you said He did it in the Church. Do you not know what the Church is?

I don't burn God's word but live by every one of them. You seem to not know what it say's so let me help you.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Are you acquainted with the member here called Tony Tony Tony? I think you and he would be in agreement on most points.
How can you tell what Tony Tony Tony would agree on? He has never made a coherent comment that I have found yet.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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We'll know who WON'T BE in Heaven, that's for sure...
No, actually, you don't. This might come as a giant shock to you, but YOU'RE NOT GOD. And neither is that book you're clutching.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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No, actually, you don't. This might come as a giant shock to you, but YOU'RE NOT GOD. And neither is that book you're clutching.
He said he was Jesus!
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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He said he was Jesus!
Forgive me if I have my doubts about that.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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We'll know who WON'T BE in Heaven, that's for sure...

Knowing how awful hell is, I dont think that is something to joke about or be goofy about it, i mean really. Its a pretty bad place.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:33 PM
 
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Knowing how awful hell is, I dont think that is something to joke about or be goofy about it, i mean really. Its a pretty bad place.
It compares to a sleep without dreams.
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Old 07-18-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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It compares to a sleep without dreams.
Hi - no offense meant but is that an atheistic point of view? just curious at your thought there
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: The High Desert of the American Southwest
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Well, it's well known that Holidays such as Christmas , Easter, Halloween, New Year's etc...
are all Pagan Holidays and no where near Biblical. but Christians worldwide see no problem at all celebrating these obviously Pagan Holidays. Most of them celebrating INSIDE their own churches.
Now how wicked is that?

So in reality, 99% of "Christians" are really Pagans and don't even know it.

Well, you are obviously parsing words and trying to bait us and even maybe incur the wrath of some of our more devout Christians, but since I'm only a half-assed Christian at best, I say it's cool and even might make an interesting discussion.
Ya gotta remember (or did you ever even know in the first place?) that the very word "pagan" derives from the old Latin word "paganus" which simply referred to someone living "in a small rural village, or of the country." These people then worshipped the older, nature-based gods, as did the Romans, Greeks and Druids. (and our own Native Americans too).
They did NOT worship the Jews' God Yahweh, nor recognize Him to be the only God, instead of their pantheon of nature gods. They were polytheists rather than monotheists.
So....to say that 99% of Christians who believe in one God are pagans-at-heart is just plain wrong. Especially since long ago Christians sorta hijacked the name "pagan" to mean anyone who does not believe like they do. So a Christian cannot really be a pagan, can they? I't's like saying an atheist who celebrates Christmas for his kids' sake is really a Christian.
But yes! Many of the Christian holidays were borne from "pagan" festivals. The December 25 b-day for JC is totally wrong, as he was most likely borne in the late-spring, maybe the last week or so of May. The Dec. 25 date was used so as to collide with the pagan Saturnalia Festival.
And Easter is in no way Pagan, as it celebrates Christ's rising from the Dead. The bunny and egg parts of Easter are indeed drerived from pagan myths, but the meaning of Easter is 100% Christian.
All religions borrow from ones that preceded it. But the Christians quickly molded the meanings and significance of some of the pagan holidays to fit their own agendas and beliefs, So in that way they were actually trying to demolish the pagan belief system, not adhere to it.
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