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Originally Posted by deadwood
Really? since the sun and earth [our solar system] wasn't created until 9 billion years after the rest of the universe automagically appears according to the big bang hypothesis, then why wouldn't they be visible if they actually emitted light?
Your not reading Genesis very well, are you.
There earth is created before light, before the sun and before the stars. Then magically, light is 'created'. But there is no sun and no stars. Where did that light come from? How could there be evening and morning on the first day if there was no sun to mark it?
Not only that, it says that god made two lights, the sun and the moon. Except we know the moon does not have any light of its own, right? It is only a reflection. The bible lied (no great surprise, it was written by a bunch of superstitious, wandering desert goat herders).
Here's a question for you. We can only see a very small number of the stars that are in the universe without a telescope.
Why were all those 'invisible' stars created. Afterall, mankind could not see any of them until at least lenses were invented.
I would have to disagree with you, the 7 spirits of God is a Menorah which a person is given if he gives his life to God, and so he cleans and sweeps out his house.
There are two lamps with 7 lights that one would hold in his right hand and his left hand.
When he believes in God, he is given a Menorah of 7 spirits which are love, patience, wisdom and so on, but he has left Egypt and he sees the fire that leads him, but then he turns back to Egypt and says,'' Dang the bad luck, those leeks of Egypt, I gotta have me one.''
So he goes back to Egypt in spirit, and he finds his house all cleaned up and set in order to gain another 7 spirits which are envy, and vanity and so on.
So a man is standing in the middle, and in his left hand he has 7 spirits Egypt, and 7 spirits of God, and he has to choose because there are two lampstands before the throne, and they only shadow what man is.
The man cannot have two lampstands in each hand with 7 spirits because one has to become less, and one has to become more and it is hard learning the difference.
A person is two witnesses, with two who see everything and testify of everything, and this is the water, and the blood.
A person cannot be two prophets at the same time and he doesn't know that one of the prophets must die because the fire coming out of the mouth of the false prophet seems good to the whole being.
Just as Moses did, just as the disciples did, a person begins to prophesy fire out of one side of his tongue and it seems like a glorious thing for the great prophet to ask,'' JESUS, SHALL WE CALL FIRE DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO CONSUME THESE?''
But Jesus told those prophets by which spirit they were speaking, he says,'' You speak from your father Satan.''
Did the disciples ask something that was unrighteous when they wanted to call fire down from heaven on those who refused the gospel of Jesus?
It sounded like a righteous thing to do so, but that is just what killed the priests in Moses day when they wanted to call fire down from heaven in the wrong spirit.
Moses found out that he would be the deliverer, and what did Moses do?
He went and killed himself an Egyptian.
The first sign of a person truly walking with God is that they become the false prophet and they have no choice in the matter until they learn what the spirits are in their left hand, vanity of vanities.
So there is a certain amount of days given for prophesying by fire,'' 1260 days, 42 months.''
This does not tell you a certain amount of days, it tells you that when you realize that you should not be the prophet of fire, you realize by which lamp and 7 lights you were following in vanity, and you have to symbolically die to your vanity in order for God to raise you up on your feet so that you can be taken to heaven while still on this Earth.
Jesus holding a Menorah will be seen tonight and all during the winter.
The Pleiades are 7 lights that pour out of a bowl into Orion's right hand, and in his left hand is a slain Lion, the Lion IS Orion, and it is showing that Orion had a Menorah in his right hand by which he killed the lion.
7 spirits pouring out a bowl, 7 bowls and 7 voices heard which all take place together. The first seal of a dead man is broken and the first voice is heard when the first bowl is poured.
The Lion who is killed is himself, you can live as a king upon this Earth or you can live as a servant, Orion is a man who had 3 stars in his belt, and he killed the Lion by being the servant.
He chose to serve instead of choosing to rule.
Those 7 lights are wrapped up in the stars and what was already known and believed in the knowledge of the stars.
The rainbow also tells a story, it is not 7, it is a simple 3, and the 3 colors is showing you yourself, what you are in body, soul, and spirit, the colors of the bible are an exact science of meaning, and it is the silver that makes me wonder the most, not the gold.
Betelgeuse is one of the stars in the belt of Orion, and being that these 3 stars represent 3 things, it's interesting.
Betelgeuse is huge and ancient and the interesting thing is that it is exploding or imploding and a day is coming when it will be seen in daylight, everyday, like a new morning star.
Betelgeuse is one of the stars in the belt of Orion, and being that these 3 stars represent 3 things, it's interesting.
Betelgeuse is huge and ancient and the interesting thing is that it is exploding or imploding and a day is coming when it will be seen in daylight, everyday, like a new morning star.
Thanks for showing me that, it was stuck in my mind for some reason like it was the farthest on the left of that belt, I wouldn't want to be thinking wrong.
It is still interesting, but it doesn't take away who Orion is or what it means.
There earth is created before light, before the sun and before the stars. Then magically, light is 'created'. But there is no sun and no stars. Where did that light come from? How could there be evening and morning on the first day if there was no sun to mark it?.
Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That is a summary of the event unfold that shall testify in the following verses to how this came about.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Where did the source of that light come from then?
John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not....9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.....14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
From our Creator, the Son of God.
Is the testimony of Him being the light that lighteth all men also testify to Him lighting everything else in creation?
Now what happened when the Son of God took our sins on the cross and had experienced that separation from God the Father for doing so? There was a darkness at the time of His crucifixion; Thallus, a secular historian, creditted that darkness to an eclipse, but Josephus Africanus, another historian, corrected him by pointing out that it was highly unlikely because there was a full moon.
So what happened to the light of the sun and the full moon? Could the light from the stars also was affected when the Light of the world took our sins upon Himself that it reflected in what He was doing in creation?
As much as you would like for believers to follow you down the rabbot hole in understanding the assertations given on the evidence to favour the evolution theory, and we do understand those assertations, but we recognize them for what they are which is not a proven fact, then follow this line of thought down the rabbit hole and say you understand this line of assertations even if you do not agree with it either, even though you nor science have an answer to explain the darkness at His crucifixion.
We rely on God to reveal the truth to those that are seeking since we know we can never convince any one of anything by ourselves. Only God the Father can reveal His Son to you.
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Originally Posted by PoorInSpirit
Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That is a summary of the event unfold that shall testify in the following verses to how this came about.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Where did the source of that light come from then?
John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not....9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.....14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
From our Creator, the Son of God.
Is the testimony of Him being the light that lighteth all men also testify to Him lighting everything else in creation?
Now what happened when the Son of God took our sins on the cross and had experienced that separation from God the Father for doing so? There was a darkness at the time of His crucifixion; Thallus, a secular historian, creditted that darkness to an eclipse, but Josephus Africanus, another historian, corrected him by pointing out that it was highly unlikely because there was a full moon.
So what happened to the light of the sun and the full moon? Could the light from the stars also was affected when the Light of the world took our sins upon Himself that it reflected in what He was doing in creation?
As much as you would like for believers to follow you down the rabbot hole in understanding the assertations given on the evidence to favour the evolution theory, and we do understand those assertations, but we recognize them for what they are which is not a proven fact, then follow this line of thought down the rabbit hole and say you understand this line of assertations even if you do not agree with it either, even though you nor science have an answer to explain the darkness at His crucifixion.
We rely on God to reveal the truth to those that are seeking since we know we can never convince any one of anything by ourselves. Only God the Father can reveal His Son to you.
You realize you went off on your tangent, and never once addressed the points. But that's OK, you got to throw in a bunch of irrelevant NT passages. You realize of course, that when the NT was not around, how did the OT explain the light problem?
There earth is created before light, before the sun and before the stars. Then magically, light is 'created'. But there is no sun and no stars. Where did that light come from? How could there be evening and morning on the first day if there was no sun to mark it?
Not only that, it says that god made two lights, the sun and the moon. Except we know the moon does not have any light of its own, right? It is only a reflection. The bible lied (no great surprise, it was written by a bunch of superstitious, wandering desert goat herders).
Here's a question for you. We can only see a very small number of the stars that are in the universe without a telescope.
Why were all those 'invisible' stars created. Afterall, mankind could not see any of them until at least lenses were invented.
Now hold, that means he created the heaven and the Earth... IN THE DARK! That's amazing! Kind of explains a lot doesn't it. Natural disasters and such. He would have noticed some glitches had he turned the lights on first.
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