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Old 11-04-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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Dern, Dew. I can't pin a rose on yer nose for that one. Even amateur students of language and literature can see how screwy the idea of one meaning for each word is. What is a heart, for instance?
A much-needed muscle found in the chest cavity. Something carved into trees by sweethearts. A band featuring the Wilson sisters. The focus of Matthew 5:8. The clue that let Shane Falco know Coach McGinnis wanted him in the game.

Sorry you asked?
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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When constructing a sentence with eliptical dots one should use three dots when leaving out a word or words, but use four when leaving out a word or words and ending the sentence.

Here is an example of using three dots:

"When constructing a sentence with eliptical dots one should use three . . . when leaving out a word or words, but use four when leaving out a word or words and, at the same time, ending the sentence."

Here is an example of using four dots:

"John goes to the movies every Thursday and then goes home."

"John goes to the movies every Thursday . . . ."

I couldn't help notice, you, being the professional you are, used five elliptical dots and you did not do so to leave out any words or end a sentence.
Actually the fourth dot is supposed to be the period at the end of the sentence, so it is attached to the final word. Stop pretending to lecture people, Eusebius. You constantly get it wrong. Also, it's spelled "elliptical," but they're just called ellipses, not "elliptical dots."
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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A much-needed muscle found in the chest cavity. Something carved into trees by sweethearts. A band featuring the Wilson sisters. The focus of Matthew 5:8. The clue that let Shane Falco know Coach McGinnis wanted him in the game.

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And in the Hebrew Bible the heart represented the seat of intelligence, but in the New Testament, due to the influence of Greco-Roman worldviews, it became the seat of emotion. The Septuagint renders the Hebrew word for "heart" as "mind" in some places. Conceptualization is a critical aspect of interpretation and translation.
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I do read the Bible quite often, My preferences are:

KJV- First edition

Latin Vulgate

Douay-Rheims

New American Standard,

Although I often look at other versions.
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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And in the Hebrew Bible the heart represented the seat of intelligence, but in the New Testament, due to the influence of Greco-Roman worldviews, it became the seat of emotion. The Septuagint renders the Hebrew word for "heart" as "mind" in some places. Conceptualization is a critical aspect of interpretation and translation.
You're my new favorite poster.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Actually the fourth dot is supposed to be the period at the end of the sentence, so it is attached to the final word. Stop pretending to lecture people, Eusebius. You constantly get it wrong. Also, it's spelled "elliptical," but they're just called ellipses, not "elliptical dots."
And just how was my use of elliptical dots improper as I posted?

How was my fourth dot in my example not the end of the sentence? You aren't a very good reader, are you?

I work with elliptical dots on a daily basis. If I wrote "eliptical" it was just an oversight.

If I quote a writing: "John goes to the movie theater every Thursday, then goes home and drinks a beer, then goes to bed." and have it thus:

"John goes to the movie theater every Thursday . . . then goes to bed."

or

"John goes to the movie theater every Thursday . . . ." then I have used the elliptical dots just fine, thank you.

Stop trying to lecture people Daniel. You constantly get it wrong. I just feel so very sorry for those who follow you and believe what you write. For all of your education, you failed miserably in not understanding that the adjective modifies the noun. Even students just beginning to learn Greek know this grammar rule.

Now back to the OP:
I like reading the Alexandrinus, Vaticanus and Sinaiticus and the Concordant Literal New Testament. Why?
The three Greek manuscripts are the oldest, most complete uncial manuscripts.
The Concordant Literal New Testament is based on these three manuscripts along with miniscules.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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And in the Hebrew Bible the heart represented the seat of intelligence, but in the New Testament, due to the influence of Greco-Roman worldviews, it became the seat of emotion. The Septuagint renders the Hebrew word for "heart" as "mind" in some places. Conceptualization is a critical aspect of interpretation and translation.
The above is not completely true.

Heart - Holman Bible Dictionary - Bible Dictionary - StudyLight.org
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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You should check out Bislama. I just returned from a trip to Vanuatu. If you know English you should be able to understand a lot of it. Here's John 1:1–3:
Whoops almost missed this! Glad I didn't. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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And in the Hebrew Bible the heart represented the seat of intelligence, but in the New Testament, due to the influence of Greco-Roman worldviews, it became the seat of emotion. The Septuagint renders the Hebrew word for "heart" as "mind" in some places. Conceptualization is a critical aspect of interpretation and translation.
My favorite definition is "core of being" and I think "core" is at the heart of all the meanings.....
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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And just how was my use of elliptical dots improper as I posted?

How was my fourth dot in my example not the end of the sentence? You aren't a very good reader, are you?
There was a space between the last letter of the end of the sentence and the first period of the ellipsis. Observe:

Wrong - "John goes to the movie theater every Thursday . . . ."

Right - "John goes to the movie theater every Thursday. . . ."

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I work with elliptical dots on a daily basis. If I wrote "eliptical" it was just an oversight.
You wrote it twice. That's a consistent oversight.

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If I quote a writing: "John goes to the movie theater every Thursday, then goes home and drinks a beer, then goes to bed." and have it thus:

"John goes to the movie theater every Thursday . . . then goes to bed."

or

"John goes to the movie theater every Thursday . . . ." then I have used the elliptical dots just fine, thank you.
No, you have to remove the space between the y at the end of "Thursday" and the period. It should be "Thursday. . . ."

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Stop trying to lecture people Daniel. You constantly get it wrong.
You've never been able to show I was wrong about anything at all. You can only insist that I'm wrong because you say so.

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I just feel so very sorry for those who follow you and believe what you write. For all of your education, you failed miserably in not understanding that the adjective modifies the noun. Even students just beginning to learn Greek know this grammar rule.
At no point have I ever given anyone the notion that I don't acknowledge that adjectives modify nouns. You insisted that I thought nouns modify adjectives because you misrepresented and/or misunderstood the reason for interpreting a specific Greek word.

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Now back to the OP:
I like reading the Alexandrinus, Vaticanus and Sinaiticus and the Concordant Literal New Testament.
You're lying. You cannot read Alexandrinus, Vaticanus, or Sinaiticus. You don't know Greek.

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Why?
The three Greek manuscripts are the oldest, most complete uncial manuscripts.
The Concordant Literal New Testament is based on these three manuscripts along with miniscules.
It's spelled "minuscules."
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