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Old 01-20-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: USA
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If you find yourself agreeing, then you have to come terms with the fact that fundamentalism is not a form of religiosity but of something else, maybe neurosis.
Is fundamentalism essentially an extreme form of religiosity?

Maybe it's a sliding scale:

"spiritual" < religious < fundamentalist < fanatic

Just my two cents.
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Old 01-20-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: In Thy presence is fulness of joy... Psa 16:11
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If people didn't add to the Bible: traditions...liturgies...rites...practices...dogma ...false leaders...mysticism...then yes, Christians can take the Bible "as is" and not be in 'disagreement' with the Almighty. In Old and New Testaments both, the Lord called His people to repent for adding to His words, or ignoring what He said. Therefore, the Jews of Old and the churches of the New were not pleasing God by their worship and practice. If we follow His words simply in love and obedience, we please Him. Those who also love Him will rejoice. Those who do not truly love Him will criticize and complain.
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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The bible is a book. You guys are worshiping a book!
I worship a living and perfect, all-powerful God. He gave His testimony to us in the form of the Scriptures. I do not worship the words, but the One who gave the words.

It's a silly argument. When your mother leaves you a note after school to clean your room, is it the note that is speaking from authority that you can ignore it? Of course not, you know who wrote the note and you respect the authority witnessed by the writing.
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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I worship a living and perfect, all-powerful God. He gave His testimony to us in the form of the Scriptures. I do not worship the words, but the One who gave the words.

It's a silly argument. When your mother leaves you a note after school to clean your room, is it the note that is speaking from authority that you can ignore it? Of course not, you know who wrote the note and you respect the authority witnessed by the writing.


You know your mother quite well and your mother is MUCH MORE than the words in the note. You would never define the character of your mother by a written note. There is much more to your mother than written words. Your mother likely has qualities that cannot be put down on words. She also has characteristics that you learned by word of mouth from others including your grandma and your aunts.

And that is the essence of Sola Scriptura. In the end God is defined by a very small collection of books full of errors. And God is greater than that!
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:30 PM
 
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And that is the essence of Sola Scriptura. In the end God is defined by a very small collection of books full of errors. And God is greater than that!
You told me that the question of God's existence is moot.
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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You told me that the question of God's existence is moot.
Correct! I am a Christian because I follow the teachings of Jesus. And I can do that because Jesus taught some valuable lessons.

And I cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. How can any one do that? are you able to prove God to me?
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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You told me that the question of God's existence is moot.
Check out the meaning of "moot." You may be under a wrong impression.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: US Wilderness
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Check out the meaning of "moot." You may be under a wrong impression.
Which meaning, original or current? The original meaning was 'worthy of discussion (mooting)'. The current meaning is 'pointless and not worthy of discussion'. Definitely not the same.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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I thought "moot" was a synonym for pointless, irrelevant, etc.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:14 AM
 
Location: US Wilderness
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I thought "moot" was a synonym for pointless, irrelevant, etc.
That is the way it is used today. It really means open to debate, a subject for discussion in a moot (meeting). It got to the present meaning via a sense of being purely academic, because after all 'we' do not have to discuss anything, 'we' already 'know' the answer and any other opinion is worthless. And thence to 'pointless'.
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