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Old 03-13-2015, 11:36 PM
 
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Basically, he is a part of the world of religion. He is not a monster who interacts and speaks with God. He is a spirit inside us who corrupts our view of God.
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Old 03-13-2015, 11:51 PM
 
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Basically, he is a part of the world of religion. He is not a monster who interacts and speaks with God. He is a spirit inside us who corrupts our view of God.
Well put. Short and to the point. I can agree with this as a short sermon.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:12 AM
 
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Read "The Screwtape Letters" by Sinclair Lewis. He gives a very good description of Satan and his minions and what they are up to.
Fiction...
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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Basically, he is a part of the world of religion.
He is not a monster who interacts and speaks with God.

He is a spirit inside us who corrupts our view of God.
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Well put. Short and to the point.
I can agree with this as a short sermon.
Adversity is a principle that results in active resistance and opposition within the human nature.
When you search for someone to blame, an adversary; you need only to confront yourself.
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Old 03-14-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Adversity is a principle that results in active resistance and opposition within the human nature.
When you search for someone to blame, an adversary; you need only to confront yourself.
agreed...
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Old 03-14-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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Adversity is a principle that results in active resistance and opposition within the human nature.
When you search for someone to blame, an adversary; you need only to confront yourself.
And when that has been done what then leave our brothers behind? You are forgeting there is an environment to contest with also.
Genesis 49
“Assemble and listen, sons of Jacob;
listen to your father Israel. 3 “Reuben, you are my firstborn,
my might, the first sign of my strength,
excelling in honor, excelling in power.
4 Turbulent as the waters, you will no longer excel,
for you went up onto your father’s bed,
onto my couch and defiled it.

5 “Simeon and Levi are brothers—
their swords[a] are weapons of violence.
6 Let me not enter their council,
let me not join their assembly,
for they have killed men in their anger
and hamstrung oxen as they pleased.
7 Cursed be their anger, so fierce,
and their fury, so cruel!
I will scatter them in Jacob
and disperse them in Israel.

8 “Judah,[b] your brothers will praise you;
your hand will be on the neck of your enemies;
your father’s sons will bow down to you.
9 You are a lion’s cub, Judah;
you return from the prey, my son.
Like a lion he crouches and lies down,
like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?
10 The scepter will not depart from Judah,
nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet,[c]
until he to whom it belongs[d] shall come
and the obedience of the nations shall be his.
11 He will tether his donkey to a vine,
his colt to the choicest branch;
he will wash his garments in wine,
his robes in the blood of grapes.
12 His eyes will be darker than wine,
his teeth whiter than milk.[e]

13 “Zebulun will live by the seashore
and become a haven for ships;
his border will extend toward Sidon.

14 “Issachar is a rawboned[f] donkey
lying down among the sheep pens.[g]
15 When he sees how good is his resting place
and how pleasant is his land,
he will bend his shoulder to the burden
and submit to forced labor.

16 “Dan[h] will provide justice for his people
as one of the tribes of Israel.
17 Dan will be a snake by the roadside,
a viper along the path,
that bites the horse’s heels
so that its rider tumbles backward.

18 “I look for your deliverance, Lord.

19 “Gad[i] will be attacked by a band of raiders,
but he will attack them at their heels.

20 “Asher’s food will be rich;
he will provide delicacies fit for a king.

21 “Naphtali is a doe set free
that bears beautiful fawns.[j]

22 “Joseph is a fruitful vine,
a fruitful vine near a spring,
whose branches climb over a wall.[k]
23 With bitterness archers attacked him;
they shot at him with hostility.
24 But his bow remained steady,
his strong arms stayed[l] limber,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
25 because of your father’s God, who helps you,
because of the Almighty,[m] who blesses you
with blessings of the skies above,
blessings of the deep springs below,
blessings of the breast and womb.
26 Your father’s blessings are greater
than the blessings of the ancient mountains,
than[n] the bounty of the age-old hills.
Let all these rest on the head of Joseph,
on the brow of the prince among[o] his brothers.

27 “Benjamin is a ravenous wolf;
in the morning he devours the prey,
in the evening he divides the plunder.â€
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Old 03-14-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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And when that has been done what then leave our brothers behind? You are forgetting there is an environment to contest with also.
I confronted the environment that was hostile and evil, which came from men.
And the two-young girls were "set free" from their captures or assailants.

It's called "Laying down one's own life for the benefit of others."
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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I confronted the environment that was hostile and evil, which came from men.
And the two-young girls were "set free" from their captures or assailants.

It's called "Laying down one's own life for the benefit of others."
Right. I think we are now on the same page. I think our way of expression just varies. I am not the best writer.
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Old 03-14-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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I confronted the environment that was hostile and evil, which came from men.
And the two-young girls were "set free" from their captures or assailants.

It's called "Laying down one's own life for the benefit of others."
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Right. I think we are now on the same page.
I think our way of expression just varies.
Being adversarial is not always a bad thing.
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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If you believe an adversary is a fallen angel?
Then, consider this: "An angel is merely a messenger.
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