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I looked at the first 10 minutes. The only things Christian are his title (Reverend) and his robe.
Hold it - he read a Psalm at the 12 minute mark... and then he went back to Thoreau and Emerson. (I am typing the post as he is speaking)
The main function of Christians should be to make disciples - which involves bringing people to Christ and teaching the things of Christ.
If God wants us make this country better, He is going to want the glory - but more and more people don't want God. So God is removing Himself from our midst and allowing us to reap what we sow - and we are sowing more and more sin.
Being a Christian, at it's root, is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It isn't about a better country, or better laws, or a safer world, or loving the sinner, or DOING anything. It is about believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and accepting Him into your life. That's it. Everything after that, flows from the relationship and the understanding that He wants us to get out of the way and allow Him to work through us.
Being a Christian, at it's root, is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It isn't about a better country, or better laws, or a safer world, or loving the sinner, or DOING anything. It is about believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and accepting Him into your life. That's it. Everything after that, flows from the relationship and the understanding that He wants us to get out of the way and allow Him to work through us.
The "easy believism" in a nutshell! First, we are not in control of what we truly believe, only what we claim to believe. Second, Christ was very clear about what we must DO as His followers. "Easy believism" may tickle your ears and release you from responsibility to DO anything, but it is a false comfort, DRob.
I looked at the first 10 minutes. The only things Christian are his title (Reverend) and his robe.
Hold it - he read a Psalm at the 12 minute mark... and then he went back to Thoreau and Emerson. (I am typing the post as he is speaking)
The main function of Christians should be to make disciples - which involves bringing people to Christ and teaching the things of Christ.
If God wants us make this country better, He is going to want the glory - but more and more people don't want God. So God is removing Himself from our midst and allowing us to reap what we sow - and we are sowing more and more sin.
Being a Christian, at it's root, is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It isn't about a better country, or better laws, or a safer world, or loving the sinner, or DOING anything. It is about believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and accepting Him into your life. That's it. Everything after that, flows from the relationship and the understanding that He wants us to get out of the way and allow Him to work through us.
If "making" disciples is the MAIN FUNCTION, why did Jesus stop at 12, and why didn't he replace Judas??
And if God doesn't want you to fight for "better" laws, or any thing but MAKE disciples, LEAVE THE LGBTQ community alone and Walk away...and WHY are you sitting on a computer and NOT out making more disciples like a good little clone?
Jesus is watching you and He has found you wanting...wanting a personal relationship with Him based only on LOVE and nothing more...
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I looked at the first 10 minutes. The only things Christian are his title (Reverend) and his robe.
Hold it - he read a Psalm at the 12 minute mark... and then he went back to Thoreau and Emerson. (I am typing the post as he is speaking)
The main function of Christians should be to make disciples - which involves bringing people to Christ and teaching the things of Christ.
If God wants us make this country better, He is going to want the glory - but more and more people don't want God. So God is removing Himself from our midst and allowing us to reap what we sow - and we are sowing more and more sin.
Being a Christian, at it's root, is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It isn't about a better country, or better laws, or a safer world, or loving the sinner, or DOING anything. It is about believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and accepting Him into your life. That's it. Everything after that, flows from the relationship and the understanding that He wants us to get out of the way and allow Him to work through us.
Bullcrap.
What is the point of asking Jesus into your life. God does want this country to be better, he doesn't want our glory. He wants our mercy. He wants us to be proactive and want to do things because we want them. Not because of dogma, not because of silly gospels. Sin is just that much more crap. We have Jesus in our lives already, the only thing we can do is be aware of the fact, and love him in return. We don't need sin or shame. We need to love our neighbors as ourselves. To love our communities, and try to make a difference.
The "easy believism" in a nutshell! First, we are not in control of what we truly believe, only what we claim to believe. Second, Christ was very clear about what we must DO as His followers. "Easy believism" may tickle your ears and release you from responsibility to DO anything, but it is a false comfort, DRob.
The bold above - I don't what that means.
Easy believism... Believing is easy from the standpoint of works. One believes. I didn't have to move a muscle. The blind can believe... the deaf... the paralytic... the mentally unstable... it's supposed to be easy. Christ did the work in allowing people to be reconciled to God. And to be clear, we are talking about being born of God. Think about being born as a baby. Did the baby do any work to be born? No. It wasn't involved in the conception process.
God will give the work He wants done as our relationship grows with Him. There is no work to do with regards to being born of God.
If "making" disciples is the MAIN FUNCTION, why did Jesus stop at 12, and why didn't he replace Judas??
Judas was replaced. Jesus did not stop at 12. There were 120 in the room in Acts 1 after Jesus had ascended.
Then I guess you could say - why wasn't everyone a disciple? That I don't know. But there was more than 12.
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Bullcrap.
What is the point of asking Jesus into your life. God does want this country to be better, he doesn't want our glory. He wants our mercy. He wants us to be proactive and want to do things because we want them. Not because of dogma, not because of silly gospels. Sin is just that much more crap. We have Jesus in our lives already, the only thing we can do is be aware of the fact, and love him in return. We don't need sin or shame. We need to love our neighbors as ourselves. To love our communities, and try to make a difference.
You are only here on earth for approx 70 years. Your soul and spirit are eternal. You are going to be somewhere when you leave the earth.
I looked at the first 10 minutes. The only things Christian are his title (Reverend) and his robe.
Hold it - he read a Psalm at the 12 minute mark... and then he went back to Thoreau and Emerson. (I am typing the post as he is speaking)
The main function of Christians should be to make disciples - which involves bringing people to Christ and teaching the things of Christ.
If God wants us make this country better, He is going to want the glory - but more and more people don't want God. So God is removing Himself from our midst and allowing us to reap what we sow - and we are sowing more and more sin.
Being a Christian, at it's root, is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It isn't about a better country, or better laws, or a safer world, or loving the sinner, or DOING anything. It is about believing in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and accepting Him into your life. That's it. Everything after that, flows from the relationship and the understanding that He wants us to get out of the way and allow Him to work through us.
You do not get to decide who is Christian, and who is not Christian. This is a flaw in thinking. Christianity is not as small and narrow as you would have us believe. Reverend Barber serves the community. I love Moral Monday.
You do not get to decide who is Christian, and who is not Christian. This is a flaw in thinking. Christianity is not as small and narrow as you would have us believe. Reverend Barber serves the community. I love Moral Monday.
Really?? I can't choose who is and who isn't a Christian? Aw man.....
I was talking about in the content of the video itself. I wasn't talking about him personally.
Judas was replaced. Jesus did not stop at 12. There were 120 in the room in Acts 1 after Jesus had ascended.
Then I guess you could say - why wasn't everyone a disciple? That I don't know. But there was more than 12.
You are only here on earth for approx 70 years. Your soul and spirit are eternal. You are going to be somewhere when you leave the earth.
Where is Jesus in your life now?
Had Jesus "anointed" each of them? The point that escapes the limited vision is that Jesus Himself spent very little time blessing disciples / apostles..His ministry was this---
The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn, and provide for those who grieve in Zion-- to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of joy instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. They will be called oaks of righteousness, a planting of the LORD for the display of his splendor.
As great as my comprehension is I DO NOT SEE ANYWHERE JESUS' MISSION TO GO AND MAKE DISCIPLES.
And again, Isaiah (through who God had a LOT to say)----
"Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen: to loose the chains of injustice and untie the cords of the yoke, to set the oppressed free and break every yoke?
Is it not to share your food with the hungry and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter-- when you see the naked, to clothe them, and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood? Then your light will break forth like the dawn, and your healing will quickly appear; then your righteousness will go before you, and the glory of the LORD will be your rear guard.
AGAIN, show me in the verses above where Jesus' primary task was to MAKE disciples / apostles?
His primary and ONLY mission was LOVE, just as God spoke of through Isaiah.
Yes, IT REALLY IS THIS SIMPLE..
But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
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