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What if we modify your analogy and it is the executioner who becomes opposed to the death penalty. Does the executioner get to keep their job? I have no problem with them objecting, but the expectation that they could keep their job is unreasonable.
In the clerks example it wasn't her who changed, it was the law which suddenly changed and demanded her to do things which she believes would dishonor God. This is why I used the same example in the prison guard scenario.
It is not about a single person. The pope's opinion applies to every person, be is a baker, prison guard, doctor, priest or clerk.
And when did the pope become part of the US government? Because we have anti-discrimination laws in every state, and federally. We also have rules and oaths of office for government employees.
If you take a job, and can no longer do that job because of your personal beliefs, then it is your responsibility to find another job, or work something out so that the job gets done, and that applies to the baker, prison guard, doctor, florist, and the county clerk. I don't care what the priest does, that is between him and the church.
And when did the pope become part of the US government? Because we have anti-discrimination laws in every state, and federally. We also have rules and oaths of office for government employees.
If you take a job, and can no longer do that job because of your personal beliefs, then it is your responsibility to find another job, or work something out so that the job gets done, and that applies to the baker, prison guard, doctor, florist, and the county clerk. I don't care what the priest does, that is between him and the church.
Did someone say he is a part of the US government? He gave his opinion from the Christian view point. He is the pope.
Those who are willing to make things work, usually find a way. If a prison guard has a problem putting death row inmates to death, then the prison manager might ask someone else. Posters here seem to think the only option is to fire guard on the spot, which is evidence of a mindset where you want to hurt people who do not agree with your views.
They don't just grab a guard that happens to be walking by and say "kill this person."
Your accusation is baseless, as I said nothing dishonest.
A job as a prison guard may not initially include the task of putting people to death, but when the State decides they will start executing people, it might become a part of the job description. However, a decent prison manager will not fire everyone who has a problem with such work, and instead will try to find someone who can do it. After all, you just need one or two people to perform such tasks. Same with signing marriage licenses for gays. It can be arranged that one person signs 99% of them, which are for straight marriages, and someone else signs the gay one.
The problem here is that people are so eager to attack her because of her beliefs, that they are not at all interested in finding other solutions to the problem. They are only interested in tearing her down.
No exception should ever be made for someone receiving tax money for a salary. Can we cut her pay based on the number of homosexuals in the state?
What if every single employee wants to practice her bigotry? Should the office no longer issue any licenses at all? That would at least be equal treatment?
If she can do that should nurses be able to refuse to treat HIV patients because God is punishing those sinners?
There is simply no reasonable accommodation to be made. If she wants a prayer closet--give her one. If she wants to wear a cross--wonderful. But if she wants to not sign marriage licenses for anybody at all then fire her butt since she lacks the moral fortitude to resign.
And since I chose to resign from a $100,000 per year job to take one making $10.50 per hour over a moral issue, I don't make that statement lightly. I have far more respect for the Colorado baker who has chosen to not bake wedding cakes rather than do something against his conscience. It hit him in the pocketbook since cakes were 40% of his income. But he is a witness for his belief rather than a millstone around the neck of both county and state like Ms. Davis.
Again it goes back to how Jesus taught us to handle what we consider onerous government laws.
If a man compel thee to go with him one mile, go with him twain.
I guess this means the pope and Catholics can be added to the long list of "hateful, bigoted book worshipping Christian fundies".
No, it adds the Pope to the list of people who make bad decisions because of bigotry. Anyone can be a bigot on a particular position or subject. The teachings of the Cathlic Church on this subject have always been bigotted.
No, it adds the Pope to the list of people who make bad decisions because of bigotry. Anyone can be a bigot on a particular position or subject. The teachings of the Cathlic Church on this subject have always been bigotted.
What teachings are you speaking of? Homosexuality?
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