Tree first knowing good and evil (importance, quotes, verses, study)
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As you keep asserting the same lie, there's really nothing for me to do but put you on ignore.
I quoted all your posts on this thread that had a few bible verses in them...... unfortunately none of them STATED we are saved from eternal hell, you know this too, and that is why you refused all along to re post them. Now can you tell me what the lie is that i am asserting or please refrain from calling me a liar.
You need to let this so-called "fundy" thing go, it is distorting all you hear and see.
I'm going to assume, because you still refuse to cite passages, that this is from Acts 16. As such you most likely have no idea of the context and scenario of when and where this transpired.
Just because the scriptures do not have the wording you want it to have, doesn't negate what salvation is and for whom.
The verse states; The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
Paul and his group answered; “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”
You along with all fundamentalists have added the words "eternal hell" to such scriptures. You are in fear of it and use it to keep folk in fear and to use it to win new converts.
It does not say or imply believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved from eternal hell.
The truth is there, but evidently you couldn't see it, or comprehend it. There are only two places in the New Testament where "Aidios" is used. And they speak to that of his "eternal" power and divine nature that goes beyond the "lip service" and false teachings of men.
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power - and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God, nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile; and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools. Now, let's see if you can find the other one?
Who are you trying to impress, and what is your point?
Do you know how many times αἰώνιος (aiōnios) is used in the NT? Do you know what it means?
You have this nasty habit of striving about WORDS, to the subverting of the hearers. (I'll let you find that verse seeing as you purport to know so much about the NT.)
Who are you trying to impress, and what is your point?
Do you know how many times αἰώνιος (aiōnios) is used in the NT? Do you know what it means?
You have this nasty habit of striving about WORDS, to the subverting of the hearers. (I'll let you find that verse seeing as you purport to know so much about the NT.)
He is trying to educate you about the difference between aidios and aionios. The only one of those words that actually means eternal is aidios, NOT aionios. Aionios means age-during or of the eons. The translators you rely on deliberately mistranslated it to conform to the "precepts and doctrines of men" Christ warned us about.
I don't expect those that I have put on my ignore list to read the following, but for those who DO want some education/perspective on proper hermeneutical exegesis of the NT, this is a good start.
I don't expect those that I have put on my ignore list to read the following, but for those who DO want some education/perspective on proper hermeneutical exegesis of the NT, this is a good start.
He is trying to educate you about the difference between aidios and aionios. The only one of those words that actually means eternal is aidios, NOT aionios. Aionios means age-during or of the eons. The translators you rely on deliberately mistranslated it to conform to the "precepts and doctrines of men" Christ warned us about.
I don't expect those that I have put on my ignore list to read the following, but for those who DO want some education/perspective on proper hermeneutical exegesis of the NT, this is a good start.
How are we supposed to know who is on your ignore list?
Wait..I know! Spidey powers!! My awesome spidey powers say your link will support your argument because your sure as heck aren't going to put up a link that says, "Stan is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Ignore everything he says. And ignore the carm links too because the aptly-named Slick is a loon."
The truth is there, but evidently you couldn't see it, or comprehend it. There are only two places in the New Testament where "Aidios" is used. And they speak to that of his "eternal" power and divine nature that goes beyond the "lip service" and false teachings of men.
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power - and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God, nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile; and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.
Now, let's see if you can find the other one?
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Originally Posted by StanJP
Who are you trying to impress, and what is your point?
The point is obvious to anyone who can read, and it is not about impressing anyone.
If, I am not mistaken, you were informed that I have an interest in linguistics.
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Do you know how many times αἰώνιος (aiōnios) is used in the NT? Do you know what it means?
I am fully aware, even, if you have been taught differently?
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You have this nasty habit of striving about WORDS, to the subverting of the hearers.
(I'll let you find that verse seeing as you purport to know so much about the NT.)
Fundamentally, it is you who endeavors to undermine and mislead the hearers.
Perhaps, it is time to set aside the Pharisaical; self-righteous eye of religiosity?
Again, I am fully aware, as are others, however, you apparently are not.
You merely spew forth a few quotes or verses - as if it impresses people?
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
He is trying to educate you about the difference between aidios and aionios. The only one of those words that actually means eternal is aidios, NOT aionios. Aionios means age-during or of the eons. The translators you rely on deliberately mistranslated it to conform to the "precepts and doctrines of men" Christ warned us about.
"The right seed sown in our mind from a correct heart will mature; but the wrong thoughts will destroy any growth."
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