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Originally Posted by Joe90
I disagree with the accommodation angle. I employ people, and while I haven't had any conflicts of interest with employees, I wouldn't make allowances for religion.
Someone tells they won't work in a church, because they are an atheist, would be down the road pronto. Same goes for the fairy tale crowd.
Someone tells they won't do job X, because of their beliefs, may as well be telling me they have no arms and legs.
An employee's beliefs shouldn't be allowed to effect my bottom line.
Except that is not the way the law works. Live with it, as it will not change.
Again bringing up the Muslim cabbies, no government came to their defense and they were ordered to by their company to drive cabs with booze or dogs in them. That issue there was no readily accomodations hence the cabbies had the choice to drive or get a new job. If the Muslims in the case above got a job with Coors they would likely have had zero case to defend and the courts would not have even heard the case.
It is not about Muslim or Christian but about the merits of each case and which law they fall under.
Apologies for cutting, but that was the case I was wondering about. It didn't seem likely to me that anyone doing that job could avoid driving a cab for a passenger with booze on board. The passenger certainly should not be refused transport because of the religious views of the driver. It seemed to me, like the muslim stewardess, if a compromise can't reasonably be found, then do the job or find another.
Except that is not the way the law works. Live with it, as it will not change.
In my case I can do as I please., as I technically hire subcontractors rather than employees, although it's still full time work.
Depends where you are in regards to the law. Here only the right to non discrimination is protected. Accommodation of personal beliefs isn't. Outcomes would be more dependent on the particular judge, and appeals.
But they may not get anywhere. The Obama administration represented these Muslims. Went out of their way to do it. Like communism. We are all equal but some are more equal than others.
Do you object to Muslims having rights under the Constitution of the United States of America? Do you object to their rights being protected by law?
If you have a complaint about your employer and think you are being discriminated against because of your Catholic beliefs you can file a complaint with the EEOC. That's what they are there for. If you are being discriminated against because of your sex, your sexual orientation, your race, your age or because you are handicapped......they want to hear from you.
Civil Rights Act of 1964. Religion-based job discrimination is illegal under federal law. It's a great country. You cannot be fired for being a Catholic.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 10-27-2015 at 03:32 PM..
Do you object to Muslims having rights under the Constitution of the United States of America? Do you object to their rights being protected by law?
If you have a complaint about your employer and think you are being discriminated against because of your Catholic beliefs you can file a complaint with the EEOC. That's what they are there for. If you are being discriminated against because of your sex, your sexual orientation, your race, your age or because you are handicapped......they want to hear from you.
Civil Rights Act of 1964. Religion-based job discrimination is illegal under federal law. It's a great country. You cannot be fired for being a Catholic.
I didn't say I disagreed with this verdict, just comparing it to other cases where religious persons are forced to go against their conscience and also the government protecting one religion over another like Judge Napolitano said.
"A jury has awarded $240,000 in damages to two Muslim truck drivers who sued their former employer for religious discrimination after they were fired for refusing to make beer deliveries."
This is just crazy!!! I think some other religious cases need to be revisited.
I didn't say I disagreed with this verdict, just comparing it to other cases where religious persons are forced to go against their conscience and also the government protecting one religion over another like Judge Napolitano said.
Yes. That is how it struck me at first. Awarded a wad of cash for not doing their job on religious grounds? But, when you dig into it we find it isn't quite as we thought.
And that's what's wrong with Fox news and their tame propagandist Napolitano.
Do you object to Muslims having rights under the Constitution of the United States of America? Do you object to their rights being protected by law?
If you have a complaint about your employer and think you are being discriminated against because of your Catholic beliefs you can file a complaint with the EEOC. That's what they are there for. If you are being discriminated against because of your sex, your sexual orientation, your race, your age or because you are handicapped......they want to hear from you.
Civil Rights Act of 1964. Religion-based job discrimination is illegal under federal law. It's a great country. You cannot be fired for being a Catholic.
But apparently you think it is perfectly fine for a Christian man to be fired for sharing his faith at work.
But apparently you think it is perfectly fine for a Christian man to be fired for sharing his faith at work.
Who got fired for sharing his faith at work? You started a thread about a guy that got fired for insubordination, but that can't be what you're talking about because you were corrected at least half a dozen times in the other thread.
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