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Old 11-06-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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Neither alarming nor surprising and really has little to do with Christianity. Men are sexually visual and it is an innate carnal drive. When we spend our life energy on carnal things we starve our spiritual development, but everything is a trade-off between the carnal and the spiritual. Imbalance is problematic.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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So satan just leaves non christians alone? You really think you are higher up on satans list? bwahaha
No and yes as satan knows he has the non-believers where he wants them, they are not a challenge whereas the believer is and satan wants to take them to hades with him so he makes the temptation greater in a surreptitious manner.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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Then what's the point of being "born again"? If you have accepted Christ into your life, then shouldn't that change your behavior? There seems to be a lot of excuse-making for "Christians" who claim to be "believe" but who continue doing what they were doing despite their alleged piety.

There's no indication that most of these "Christian" men are suffering from addictions to either porn or extra-marital affairs (is that even a real addiction), so addiction isn't an excuse either.
You sound like an angry person- are you one of the many on here that passes judgement on Christians? I would assume that you are intelligent enough to realize that becoming a Christian does not mean one will never sin again. If anyone could remain sinless, than Christs death on the cross was in vain. The assumption that anyone that identifies themself as a Christian should act like an angel is silly. Yes, behavior changes, but we're still human. I don't commit alot of the sins I used to, or I commit them less often or to a lesser degree. Instead of looking to criticize Christians, you might want to look at yourself and see what you need to improve on.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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Same here. That's why I think fundamentalist Christianity is almost like a kind of paranoia.

"I always feel like...somebody's watching me...and I have no privacy...ooh OOH ohh..."
Add on top your Guardian Angel watching you... you know..
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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There it is again. The convenient excuse. "The devil made me do it!"

Umm...no. Christians do it because they want to. Porn does not magically appear in front of Christians. They decide they want to look at it...then they search for it.

Personal responsibility.....tossed in the trash if a Christian can say, "The devil made me do it." Worse...they want to claim they are special snowflakes subject to special problems. The problem is they want to blame someone else...the devil, liberals, atheists, lesbians.... instead of being mature adults who take responsibility for their own actions.
It's the easy, greasy grace way of the fundamentalist. They can keep right on sinning since it's all covered by having believed in Jesus. Total B.S. as far as I'm concerned. I suppose this explains why they can also despise and condemn others with such ease and not repent of that as well. They clearly do not understand the meaning of the term Pharisee nor do they realize how much Jesus had to say against such believers.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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So if we do not believe in Satan that he is fine with us being good people, being faithful to our spouses, kind to our parents, treat others as good as we can and not commit any crimes? And this is having us just where he wants us, being good productive citizens? He does not sound too efficient in my mind then. But maybe I am addicted to porn, I see it about one or two minutes per year, at least what I would call porn.

In retrospect I believe that there were one or two females I may have been sucessful with if I tried but I never remember hearing Satan telling me I could get away with it or Jesus telling me it would be a sin. It just was not who I am nor who I ever was. Guess this is part of my subjective morality.

I do wonder if perhaps part of why Christian men may be addicted to porn if that be the case is it was just so more forbidden that for non Christians which made it more tempting. That is just a hypotesis on my part and I have nothing to back it up with. Maybe if they were comfortable viewing it out in the open at home they would tire of it.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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So if we do not believe in Satan that he is fine with us being good people, being faithful to our spouses, kind to our parents, treat others as good as we can and not commit any crimes? And this is having us just where he wants us, being good productive citizens? He does not sound too efficient in my mind then. But maybe I am addicted to porn, I see it about one or two minutes per year, at least what I would call porn.
No, he is fine with using you to try and wreck the faith of others. Beyond that, he doesn't care what you do with your life as long as you keep your heart hardened against God.
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Old 11-06-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Then what's the point of being "born again"? If you have accepted Christ into your life, then shouldn't that change your behavior? There seems to be a lot of excuse-making for "Christians" who claim to be "believe" but who continue doing what they were doing despite their alleged piety.

There's no indication that most of these "Christian" men are suffering from addictions to either porn or extra-marital affairs (is that even a real addiction), so addiction isn't an excuse either.
This suggests that the power of belief in something is the critical, even vital part of a person turning their life around after a lifetime of bad, even criminal behavior, not any sort of supernatural deliverance by a Holy Spirit. When a person accepts Jesus, Paul says he is a new creature; all things become new.

But does a person really need to accept Jesus to become new? Is it Jesus/HolySpirit creating this new man OR is it the power of the brain to believe in something so strongly that yes, even the horrible painful symptoms of drug withdrawal can be averted by the brain harnessing its own powers to prevent the them: shaking, sweats, cramps, nausea, vomiting, nerves rubbing raw?

This would explain why some lives change so dramatically while others' go on pretty much the same: the strength of the belief in their minds produces the degree to which they change their former bad behaviors. Thus we have a pathological rapist murderer who becomes a minister, while DRoB4JC still struggles with pornography. Jesus seems to have had great success with the murderer. DRob? Ehhhh...not quite as spectacular.

It's all in the mind folks. It's mental, nothing more---certainly nothing supernatural that changes a person's behavior so dramatically.
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Old 11-06-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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Add on top your Guardian Angel watching you... you know..
I have a serious confession to make. I blush. I have secret fantasies of my guardian angel looking like Kate Upton and after I die she's there to greet me and we look into each other's eyes for the longest time and this longing between us starts to build and...well....you create your own fantasy. This one's mine.

I can just see all the Christian men reading this sweating and panting, then running to their computers to pull up some porn.

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If a christian woman looks at porn, is it still a sin?
Yes, just not as big a sin because men are animals; women are more romantic about their desires. That makes it a little less sinful.
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Old 11-06-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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I never said the devil made me do it. The devil cant force a person to sin. You still make the choice, but he can certainly ripen the situation where sin is very tempting. He may tell a guy that cheating on his wife with a sexy woman is totally worth it. " Do it do it do, You'll never have another chance like this, and you can totally get away with it."

Then after the sin is committed then he will torment a believer with feelings of shame, guilt or depression over their sinful actions. It only gets worse if the person tries to hide and live a double life. Eventually the truth almost always comes out and a lot more people are hurt. Famililes can be torn apart which opens more doorways of opportunity for Satan to attack the children.

This is why sexual sin gets more attention than other sins. IT is so damaging on many levels.
I so agree with this and even when I sin I never think that the Devil made me do, I had a choice to submit to the temptation or not. The devil does tempt people but we are not robots and God has given all of us a choice on responding to a a sinful temptation. However the Lord does his work and guides people away from temptation. I have experienced that myself.
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