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Old 11-10-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Christian men are having an alarmingly difficult time abstaining from the sexual sins of viewing pornography and committing adultery on their spouses, according to a new national survey. Tragically, married Christian men are failing miserably when it comes to these sins, as 55 percent look at pornography at least once a month and 35 percent cheated on their spouses in an extramarital affair.

"The rate of extramarital affairs appears to have a correlation to frequency of viewing pornography," Hesch proclaimed. "A married person who views porn several times a month is ripe to have an affair.”

Survey: Alarming rate of Christian men look at porn, commit adultery

Yes it a sad case and I am astonished with the rate that 35% of men cheated on their spouses. It a major issue and has also caused the downfall of Churches and major break up with families.
Well, a question or two or three.

Does this line of thought include single men as well? If it does, then is it going with the approach that Fornication is also adultery? Is it even going further to say that sin is done through thought and masturbation?

For if it is, well then those percentages are much too low.

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Bingo. Pornography is one of the most intense addictions and, in 2015, one of the easiest to feed.........
I would disagree with that because to me, Net addiction is 10 times as intense as pornography and, in 2015, one of the easiest to feed.

Why, my just being here, typing this post, rather shows that. It's the want for attention, of just a few more seconds to see if someone will say something that makes me shine, will say something that touches me, makes me feel nice, that there will be something there that motivates that part of me that perhaps doesn't get to come out that often to play.

Sure, all that is easily tied into the sexual side of me, but it is that craving for attention that feeds it, that compels me to be here at the computer, to look at the Net, as oppose to watching a Nina Hartley video where she is seducing some young thing, and imaging that I am that young thing once again, being seduced, being taken possession of.

Being Defiant aside, this is one of the big reasons why I don't get a smart phone. I don't want to become zombie and having been computer addicted, where the imagination is a lot more fun than reality, I know how easy it is.

So maybe they are misidentifying the medium. Perhaps it isn't pornography itself but rather the Net where pornography is just a part of it......and, of course, the very old foe of some.

But, that's my just humble opinion, I could be wrong. After all, what do I know about such things? I'm not a boy.

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Old 11-10-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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Remorse and punishment do not go hand in hand. The idea is not doing things that would bring some sort of remorse in the first place. If you know you are going to regret something, why do it to begin with?

If you know you are going to regret seeking porn, then stop seeking porn. If you did not know porn was going to cause you regret, but feel regret, then stop seeking porn.
Exactly.

Apparently the Bible Belt porn watchers aren't capable of controlling themselves. Thus the need to tell each other God will take them behind the spiritual woodshed.... and then they'll be sorry.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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Exactly.

Apparently the Bible Belt porn watchers aren't capable of controlling themselves. Thus the need to tell each other God will take them behind the spiritual woodshed.... and then they'll be sorry.
I think they like being taken to the "wood shed", and that is why they want to go so frequently. Pleasure and pain seem to be associated with that psyche.

Hitting their children gives them pleasure.
Getting punished gives them pleasure.

It is their fundamental flaw. Men who cannot control themselves seek to control others, especially women and children. Madonna and ***** gets the loins moist.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Men who cannot control themselves seek to control others, especially women and children.
Truth.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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I think it is great hearing fundamental Christianity coming out with that kind of stuff it makes it even less appealing than it already is.
So it would be more appealing to have a Christianity that teaches no consequences at all for sin huh? Get your "get out of hell free" cards right here. That's not what God wants. He wants us to seek righteousness because that is a path that we keep us away from harm. It ultimately is a product of His love for mankind.

Think of all the marriages ruined, spouses and children hurt, careers destroyed, unwanted pregnancies and other social problems all brought on in exchange for giving into the sin of enjoying a moment of physical pleasure. If you follow God's path, your spiritual eyes overrule the dumb physical flesh and you realize just how stupid it is to fall into sin.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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Think of all the marriages ruined, spouses and children hurt, careers destroyed, unwanted pregnancies and other social problems all brought on in exchange for giving into the sin of enjoying a moment of physical pleasure.
Josh Duggar being example #1.

I don't suppose ol' Josh ever thought, "I'm looking at someone's daughter. How would I feel if some guy was looking at pictures of my wife or daughter? Porn is degrading to women. I could be doing MUCH better things with my time... like playing with my kids."

Nah...... That would take an actual adult and Josh had a credit card!!
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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So it would be more appealing to have a Christianity that teaches no consequences at all for sin huh? Get your "get out of hell free" cards right here. That's not what God wants. He wants us to seek righteousness because that is a path that we keep us away from harm. It ultimately is a product of His love for mankind.

Think of all the marriages ruined, spouses and children hurt, careers destroyed, unwanted pregnancies and other social problems all brought on in exchange for giving into the sin of enjoying a moment of physical pleasure. If you follow God's path, your spiritual eyes overrule the dumb physical flesh and you realize just how stupid it is to fall into sin.
It does not seem to help fundamentalist Christians. You keep sinning. The solution is for you to stop sinning. It is not that hard. Try it.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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God and I are old friends. God does not punish me, and has no reason to punish me. I find the idea astonishing.

Remorse and punishment do not go hand in hand. The idea is not doing things that would bring some sort of remorse in the first place. If you know you are going to regret something, why do it to begin with?
I am sorry you are not getting it.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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I am sorry you are not getting it.
Try getting off the sinning wheel. If you think I am not getting it, then try explaining what you mean.

I do not get punished by God. I cannot imagine having any relationship that involves me being punished.

What are you doing that you cannot seem to stop? Why do you continually require punishment? Why can you not control yourself, and stop doing things that make you remorseful or in need of punishment?

That is the issue.

It is easy to stop seeking porn. Simply stop seeking porn. I could not be easier than that.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Josh Duggar being example #1.

I don't suppose ol' Josh ever thought, "I'm looking at someone's daughter. How would I feel if some guy was looking at pictures of my wife or daughter? Porn is degrading to women. I could be doing MUCH better things with my time... like playing with my kids."

Nah...... That would take an actual adult and Josh had a credit card!!
I remember the disclaimer at the end of a Parliament Video flick, of something like, "the personality displayed is not the actual personality of the model".

It's a show, someone playing the muse for a fantasy, not the actual person. It's like watching the blonde strut around on stage in nothing but heels, stockings, garter belt, panties and a bra in the play "Noises Off". One doesn't really believe she is like that......and no doubt, she has much of the attention of men in the audience. Are those men staring at someone's daughter or some actress playing a part?

Both, of course, but who is to say that she can't play that part? It is her choice.

Of course, one must take this with a grain of salt as it is a belly dancer's fingers at the key board.
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