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Old 12-14-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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Seriously?

My blood of the covenant, which is poured out
Seriously jimmie, that does not say God required a blood sacrifice in order to be able to forgive. I'm not surprised that you read it into that, though.
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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Seriously jimmie, that does not say God required a blood sacrifice in order to be able to forgive. I'm not surprised that you read it into that, though.
"My blood is poured out for the forgiveness of sins." -Jesus

How you & others here can deny what Jesus meant, especially when other scripture points to Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb, is just ridiculous. I'm not surprised, though.
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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"My blood is poured out for the forgiveness of sins." -Jesus

How you & others here can deny what Jesus meant, especially when other scripture points to Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb, is just ridiculous. I'm not surprised, though.
Does any of it say the sacrifice was required by God in order for God to be able to forgive?
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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Does any of it say the sacrifice was required by God in order for God to be able to forgive?

Revelation 1:5 - and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood--

Hebrews 9:22 - And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Revelation 1:5 - and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood--

Hebrews 9:22 - And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

Jimmie was talking about what JESUS is reported to have said. (See post 120)
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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Foolishness is foolishness, Biblical or otherwise. There is a lot in the Bible which is just plain crazy and should be treated as such, imo. Making excuses for it is STUPID
It is foolishness to the unbeliever because they are spiritually dead and blind. The Bible is a book meant to be read and studied by people who are born again.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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It is foolishness to the unbeliever because they are spiritually dead and blind. The Bible is a book meant to be read and studied by people who are born again.
PLEASE, you just have to give chapter and verse where GOD or JESUS said this fallacy...

It ain't worth posting another word if you cannot cite this one..
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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Does any of it say the sacrifice was required by God in order for God to be able to forgive?
The sacrifice was to satisfy His holiness.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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Jimmie was talking about what JESUS is reported to have said. (See post 120)
Yes, but as you can see, other scriptures support Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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PLEASE, you just have to give chapter and verse where GOD or JESUS said this fallacy...

It ain't worth posting another word if you cannot cite this one..
Post #1.
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