Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I don't think this is that hard to understand. Angels can appear in flesh bodies as they did to Abraham. If they elect to keep those flesh bodies, that's a "fall" from their first estate. Women being as the soul of man, is what they joined themselves to and their seed produced giants, not necessarily in physical stature, but in spiritual stature as in a PRINCE-ipality.
The literal flesh of them was destroyed in the flood, but the principality of them is not subject to a natural flood, so we see the principality again at work in men mentioned as the giants in Canaan, a type of our physical body, after the flood waters of the law have been applied to it to destroy the flesh, but save the spirit. What is left is still the battle for the soul, and there are principalities to be overcome in ALL flesh, as the spirit is the root of the fruit/sin that has not been dealt with, such as the Jezebel spirit that sits upon the head of ALL men until she is overcome and burned with the fire of the Holy Ghost. Peace
Yea...I guess that you know the religion of the Jews better than they do...
Yea...I guess that you know the religion of the Jews better than they do...
Let's just say I know the Spirit of it better than most of them do. I do respect some of the sages views however. It's clear when reading some of them that He was dealing with them, even though my Christian brethren might disagree with me. Peace
And Jehovah saith, `My Spirit doth not judge man to eternal damnation in their erring. [After all] they [are only] flesh:'
[Nevertheless] his days [in prison] shall be 120 years
The Nephilim were in the [abyss of the] earth (ie prison) in those days, and after this gleefully sons of God come in unto daughters of Adam, and they have borne to them. They (the Nephilim) became the Gadarenes (Girgash), who, from of old, [are] the men of name (Shem)
Wiki is not a validated source to be learning christianity from. That is a misquote from scripture.
Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
As you can read, verse 3 is not an eternal judgment on celestiel beings that took wives for themselves, because these sons of God were flesh as verse 3 testified. Therefore, the lives of these men were shortened to 120 years.
The significance? The sons of God that did not marry outside of their family line of Seth lived longer.
Genesis 5:30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and fiveyears, and begat sons and daughters:31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 9:28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.
So the sons of God were of the lineage of Seth as the godly Seth as replaced the godly Abel as his godly lineage is the sons of God from whom Israel had sprung from; it is their family tree reference as the sons of God.
Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
That is where the coined phrase "sons of God" came from and how it is to be read in the scripture for.
They were never angels nor used as a reference for angels when the Hebrew word of "ben" from which son is derived from means builder of the family name.
And since Genesis testified to these sons of God taking wives for themselves and that means God joined them together for them to be wives to them in according to His words, then they were men; not fallen angels as God would never perform an unholy union for the women to be called wives to them in His Words. As Jesus said...concerning the resurrection of the firstfruits at the pre trib rapture event:
Matthew 22:30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:25For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
That means angels as they have been created to not reproduce, cannot marry; and neither can fallen angels. It would be illogical to keep calling fallen angels the sons of God in His words and even more illogical to believe that God would join them in "holy" matrimony when they are not equipped to build a family line, and Jesus said that God would not join them; and most assuredly, God would not sin by joining the sons of God if they were fallen angels by joining them in a marriage covenant thus committing an unholy union.
You are free to peruse the internet, but as in all things, do apply your skepticism to all things christian. Compare all scripture used by other sources with the King James Version Bible to validate it and read verses before and after the quoted reference to make sure it is done in context of the message given.
Wiki is not a validated source to be learning christianity from. That is a misquote from scripture.
Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
As you can read, verse 3 is not an eternal judgment on celestiel beings that took wives for themselves, because these sons of God were flesh as verse 3 testified. Therefore, the lives of these men were shortened to 120 years.
The significance? The sons of God that did not marry outside of their family line of Seth lived longer.
Genesis 5:30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and fiveyears, and begat sons and daughters:31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 9:28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.
So the sons of God were of the lineage of Seth as the godly Seth as replaced the godly Abel as his godly lineage is the sons of God from whom Israel had sprung from; it is their family tree reference as the sons of God.
Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
That is where the coined phrase "sons of God" came from and how it is to be read in the scripture for.
They were never angels nor used as a reference for angels when the Hebrew word of "ben" from which son is derived from means builder of the family name.
And since Genesis testified to these sons of God taking wives for themselves and that means God joined them together for them to be wives to them in according to His words, then they were men; not fallen angels as God would never perform an unholy union for the women to be called wives to them in His Words. As Jesus said...concerning the resurrection of the firstfruits at the pre trib rapture event:
Matthew 22:30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:25For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
That means angels as they have been created to not reproduce, cannot marry; and neither can fallen angels. It would be illogical to keep calling fallen angels the sons of God in His words and even more illogical to believe that God would join them in "holy" matrimony when they are not equipped to build a family line, and Jesus said that God would not join them; and most assuredly, God would not sin by joining the sons of God if they were fallen angels by joining them in a marriage covenant thus committing an unholy union.
You are free to peruse the internet, but as in all things, do apply your skepticism to all things christian. Compare all scripture used by other sources with the King James Version Bible to validate it and read verses before and after the quoted reference to make sure it is done in context of the message given.
I don't get my information from any Wiki. I wrote that myself. By the way the deaths of the Patriarchs from Adam to Lamech correspond to the events of the flood
Wiki is not a validated source to be learning christianity from. That is a misquote from scripture.
Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
As you can read, verse 3 is not an eternal judgment on celestiel beings that took wives for themselves, because these sons of God were flesh as verse 3 testified. Therefore, the lives of these men were shortened to 120 years.
The significance? The sons of God that did not marry outside of their family line of Seth lived longer.
Genesis 5:30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and fiveyears, and begat sons and daughters:31 And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.32 And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 9:28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.
So the sons of God were of the lineage of Seth as the godly Seth as replaced the godly Abel as his godly lineage is the sons of God from whom Israel had sprung from; it is their family tree reference as the sons of God.
Luke 3:38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
That is where the coined phrase "sons of God" came from and how it is to be read in the scripture for.
They were never angels nor used as a reference for angels when the Hebrew word of "ben" from which son is derived from means builder of the family name.
And since Genesis testified to these sons of God taking wives for themselves and that means God joined them together for them to be wives to them in according to His words, then they were men; not fallen angels as God would never perform an unholy union for the women to be called wives to them in His Words. As Jesus said...concerning the resurrection of the firstfruits at the pre trib rapture event:
Matthew 22:30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12:25For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
That means angels as they have been created to not reproduce, cannot marry; and neither can fallen angels. It would be illogical to keep calling fallen angels the sons of God in His words and even more illogical to believe that God would join them in "holy" matrimony when they are not equipped to build a family line, and Jesus said that God would not join them; and most assuredly, God would not sin by joining the sons of God if they were fallen angels by joining them in a marriage covenant thus committing an unholy union.
You are free to peruse the internet, but as in all things, do apply your skepticism to all things christian. Compare all scripture used by other sources with the King James Version Bible to validate it and read verses before and after the quoted reference to make sure it is done in context of the message given.
The book of Enoch, a Jewish intertestamental religious apocryphal work written between the 4th and 1st centuries BC. refers to the ḇə·nê- hā·’ĕ·lō·hîm as the sons of heaven and identifies them as angels.
Referring to Genesis 6:1-2, Enoch 7:1-2 says,
Enoch Chapter 7
Enoch 7:1 It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful.
Enoch 7:2 And when the angels, (3) the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children.
(3) An Aramaic text reads "Watchers" here (J.T. Milik, Aramaic Fragments of Qumran Cave 4 [Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1976], p. 167).
These sons of God, these angels mated with human women who gave birth to giants.
Enoch 7:11 And the women conceiving brought forth giants, (7)
(7) The Greek texts vary considerably from the Ethiopic text here. One Greek manuscript adds to this section, "And they [the women] bore to them [the Watchers] three races–first, the great giants. The giants brought forth [some say "slew"] the Naphelim, and the Naphelim brought forth [or "slew"] the Elioud. And they existed, increasing in power according to their greatness." See the account in the Book of Jubilees.
Enoch 7:11 And the women conceiving brought forth giants, (7)
(7) The Greek texts vary considerably from the Ethiopic text here. One Greek manuscript adds to this section, "And they [the women] bore to them [the Watchers] three races–first, the great giants. The giants brought forth [some say "slew"] the Naphelim, and the Naphelim brought forth [or "slew"] the Elioud. And they existed, increasing in power according to their greatness." See the account in the Book of Jubilees.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
