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Old 01-24-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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"Justice" as George defined it is still vengeance.

how does "my" definition of justice equate to vengeance? if it is than all human laws and justice (which also deal with both punishment and mercy for wrongs committed) are also potentially vengeance by your definition. I have made no mention of the duration or nature of any punishment that might happen because of such "evil" actions and the question of the "fairness" of (possibly) eternal punishment for finite acts hasn't come up either as a potential problem with divine justice.




again, my thoughts were that (divine) justice was about reward for the innocent and the good with mercy for the REPENTENT "sinner" and also punishment for the guilty and evil and UN-REPENTENT. please tell me how that offends justice or equity or should those who knowingly and intentionally did bad things and aren't sorry at all get the exact same treatment as those who did good OR sometimes not good BUT are truly sorry for their ill-deeds in this world or possibly the next???
George, I would say most human ideas of justice ARE vengeance. Take a look at the "justice" system in the US: it is largely about punishment, not reform or restoration.
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Old 01-24-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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George, I would say most human ideas of justice ARE vengeance. Take a look at the "justice" system in the US: it is largely about punishment, not reform or restoration.
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Old 01-27-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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God made me feel as if I could float after I repented of wanting my friends dead. I have firsthand experienced, been in and seen evil and I know firsthand from experience I no longer want any part in it, Jesus saves and IS THE MESSIAH.
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Old 02-05-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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Jesus is a very good God.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:05 PM
 
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Jesus loves all people and doesnt think all are evil.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Jesus is a very good God.
He's not G-d...Said so himself...
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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God made me feel as if I could float after I repented of wanting my friends dead. I have firsthand experienced, been in and seen evil and I know firsthand from experience I no longer want any part in it, Jesus saves and IS THE MESSIAH.
Then why did he not accomplish everything that G-d said that the Messiah would accomplish...
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Old 02-14-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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And what is that?
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Old 02-14-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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And what is that?
In another post you stated that you had read the whole bible...Then you should know this...
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Old 02-14-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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yeah but i dont believe he got crucified.
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