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The similarities just seem too striking. Brahma's wife was Saraswati; Abraham's wife was Sara. A tributary of the Sarasvati River is the Ghaggar tributary (Haggar, servant-tributary of Sara/Saraswati.
This is more than just coincidence. The Abraham legend has to derive from the legend of Brahma/Saraswati/Ghaggar.
Such similarities can only be believed by the Bible lovers if it’s all to be found in the Bible. They’ve housed themselves in a closed book.
Such similarities can only be believed by the Bible lovers if it’s all to be found in the Bible. They’ve housed themselves in a closed book.
Names of Noah.
Babylon - Utnapishtim
Sunerans - Ziusidru
Greeks - Deucalion
Hindu - Manu
Chinese - Fah-he
Hawaiian - Nu-U
Mexican Indians - Tezpi
Algonquins - Manabozho
All of these relate how a lone survivor perhaps with his wife and children was saved from a global destruction brought on by a world wide flood, and each one was given the task to repopulate the Earth.
Being that we find this story all over the world, and to even look at Egypt and how they still carry the boat of Osirus in the streets, and the fact that they called Moses,'' Osirus.'' "'Osiris taken from the water.'' It is always about being taken from the water, and the reason Jesus came to make fishers of men to literally take men from the water.
Moses had been taken from the water as the God of Egypt, and although we find so many stories, none can compare to the shiplog of Noah.
The Giglamesh record is dated older than the bible and it has it's depiction of the flood in a boat built like a brick and this is a problem of perfection, they displayed a boat built like a brick and nobody copied their design, whereas the design of Noah's ship has been duplicated a million times.
The Giglamesh of the flood has no dates, but the date of Egypt perfectly agrees with the date in the bible where it ended on the 17th day of the second month and is still celebrated in the streets of Egypt every year.
What does it all mean?
It in fact, brings all people back to the same region hearing the same legends from the same sources, and as each legend went to a different country, they had different names, and the story slightly shifted and this would be expected of a story, but there is still nothing to compare with the preciseness of the bible, and the sheer common sense of it.
We are all related.
It brings us all back to the same place.
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Babylon - Utnapishtim
Sunerans - Ziusidru
Greeks - Deucalion
Hindu - Manu
Chinese - Fah-he
Hawaiian - Nu-U
Mexican Indians - Tezpi
Algonquins - Manabozho
All of these relate how a lone survivor perhaps with his wife and children was saved from a global destruction brought on by a world wide flood, and each one was given the task to repopulate the Earth.
Being that we find this story all over the world, and to even look at Egypt and how they still carry the boat of Osirus in the streets, and the fact that they called Moses,'' Osirus.'' "'Osiris taken from the water.'' It is always about being taken from the water, and the reason Jesus came to make fishers of men to literally take men from the water.
Moses had been taken from the water as the God of Egypt, and although we find so many stories, none can compare to the shiplog of Noah.
The Giglamesh record is dated older than the bible and it has it's depiction of the flood in a boat built like a brick and this is a problem of perfection, they displayed a boat built like a brick and nobody copied their design, whereas the design of Noah's ship has been duplicated a million times.
The Giglamesh of the flood has no dates, but the date of Egypt perfectly agrees with the date in the bible where it ended on the 17th day of the second month and is still celebrated in the streets of Egypt every year.
What does it all mean?
It in fact, brings all people back to the same region hearing the same legends from the same sources, and as each legend went to a different country, they had different names, and the story slightly shifted and this would be expected of a story, but there is still nothing to compare with the preciseness of the bible, and the sheer common sense of it.
We are all related.
It brings us all back to the same place.
WAS THERE AN EVENT WHERE THE KNOWN WORLD OF THAT DAY WAS INUNDATED ?
The major volcanic explosion of Hekla 4 in Iceland, which spewed out massive amounts of larva, coupled with a close encounter with a passing comet and a Tunguska like fireball, are believed to have been major issues in the inundation of Ireland that is said to have been left waste for 30 odd years, and the devastating flood around the Mediterranean Sea, which was the known civilized world in the days of Noah around 2350 B.C, the time when this catastrophic event is said to have occurred.
To those who are interested, I would advise them to read the complete “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997. Following is a small extract from said article.
. Marie-Agnes Courty (CNRS, Grignon) presented new archaeological data concerning a catastrophe inferred to have occurred in the Middle East c.2350 BC. She emphasized the importance of high-time-resolution archaeological investigations in the assessment of natural catastrophes on societal collapse, the data in this case indicating the combination of a burnt surface horizon and air blast, consistent with a Tunguska-like fireball, but possibly also a major volcanic event.
The evidence for regional environmental change at about the same time was confirmed and extended by Mike Baillie (Queen’s University Belfast), whose tree-ring analyses of Irish bog oaks showed very significant narrowing of the rings around the year 2345 BC, associated with identified tephra from the Icelandic Hekla 4 volcano, dated to 2310 +/- 20 BC. This suggests a volcanic origin of the c. 2350 BC event identified by Courty, but the period in question is also associated with other events, including floods, the creation of new lakes and even the traditional start of Chinese history! In Baillie’s words, 2345 BC ‘is a classic marker date, i.e. a date which will show up on a regular basis in studies of various kinds’.
Although the flood story as handed down from Noah to his descendant Abraham, may have been a local event around Ireland and the coasts of the Mediterranean Sea, and as far inland to the Euphrates and beyond, it would have been recorded as an event which had flooded their entire known world.
And according to the “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey,” there were world-wide volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and destructive floods, which have been recorded from many different civilisations around the globe.
The people of the pre-flood days would not have known that the circumference of the earth was almost 25,000 miles, nor would they have known how many continents and islands there are on this earth. Their known world was limited to the civilised world of those days.
According to the Septuagint, it was almost 900 years after the flood that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, and the daughters of righteous Lot, believed that of every man in the world, their father was the sole survivor, and for the salvation of the human race they deemed it necessary to fall pregnant to their father, who, being a righteous man, they believed that he would not consent. For this reason, they got him so intoxicated that he was oblivious to being raped.
The animals that were taken into the ark, would have been those which were chosen from the animals that had been forced to flee from the rising waters to the higher ground, upon which Noah would have presumably built the ark, which animals would have only been those of his known world that was flooded around the year 2350 BC.
The Ark, which was a rectangular chest-like floating container built of Kopherwood, would of necessity, have to be sealed inside and out with bitumen to stop it from leaking, and Kopherwood is simply any wood that is coated with tar/bitumen. The Ark was subject to tides, currents and wind, having no means of propulsion or steerage, it was guided by the hand of the Lord.
According to the Turin papyrus list, Teti ruled for six months, and Pepi 1, began his rule after Teti, which according to some Egyptologists, was 33 years later, leaving a gap of 33 years between Teti and his successor Pepi, this would support the belief that some catastrophic event occurred around that time, where the evidence shows that Ireland was inundated, around the time of the eruption of Helka4 and is said to have remained desolate for 30 years.
A flood of that magnitude would have surely been experienced throughout the Middle East, and perhaps Egypt was desolate and without a king or countrymen for some thirty years also. I believe that the flood that occurred in Noah’ day, around 2,350 BC, was an event that would have been recorded and handed down by a witness of that era, as a world-wide flood.
According to the “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997. There were major events occurring around the world at that time, floods, Meteorite strikes, caused by a close encounter with a disintegrating comet, presumable causing catastrophic world-wide tsunami’ etc, and the flood stories are found throughout the countries of the world.
Over 2,000 years before George Smith’s discovery of the deluge tablets in Iraq, there existed an account of the Chaldean [pre-Babylonian] flood myth. Berosus, an ancient Chaldean historian living in the time of Alexander the Great in the 4th century B.C.E, relayed to the Greeks the antiquity of his peoples deluge myth in the following words: “After the death of Ardates, his son Xisuthrus reigned eighteen sari. In his time happened a great deluge; the history of which is thus described.
The deity Cronos appeared to him in a vision, and warned him that upon the fifteenth day of the month Daesius there would be a flood, by which mankind be destroyed. He therefore enjoined him to write a history of the beginning, procedure, and conclusion of all things, and to bury it in the city of the sun at Sippara; and to build a vessel, and take with him into it his friends and relations; and to convey on board everything necessary to sustain life, together with all the different animals, [In the area of his known world] both birds and quadrupeds, and trust himself fearlessly to the deep.
Having asked the Deity whither he was to sail, he was answered, “To the Gods;” upon which he offered up a prayer for the good of mankind. He then obeyed the divine admonition and built a vessel five stadia in length, and two in breadth. Into this he put everything which he had prepared, and last of all conveyed into it his wife, his children and his friends. After the flood had been upon the earth, and was in time abated, Xisuthrus sent out birds from the vessel; which finding no food, nor any place whereupon they might rest their feet, returned to him again. After an interval of some days, he sent them forth a second time; and they now returned with their feet tinged with mud. He made a trial a third time with these birds; but they returned to him no more: from whence he judged that the surface of the earth had appeared above the waters.
He therefore made an opening in the vessel, and upon looking out found that it was stranded upon the side of some mountains; upon which he immediately quitted it with his wife, his children, and the pilot. Xisuhrus then paid his adoration to the earth: and having constructed an altar, offered sacrifices to the Gods.”
It should be noted that the account of the deluge relayed in the tablets discovered by George Smith differ only very slightly from Berosus’ account, which differs only slightly from the story handed down by the Chaldean, Abraham, whose father ‘Terah’ was High Priest in the temple of the Chaldean city of Ur.
The flood of Noah didn’t come as a surprise. It had been preached on for four generations. Something strange happened when Enoch was 65, from which time “He walked with God.” Enoch was given a prophecy that as long as his firstborn son ‘Methuselah’ was alive, the judgement of the flood would be withheld, but as soon as he died, the flood would be sent forth.
Enoch named his firstborn to reflect this prophecy. The name Methuselah comes from two roots: muth, a root that means death, and from shalach, which means ‘To Bring’ or ‘To Send Forth.’ Thus, the name Methuselah signifies, ‘His Death Shall Bring.’ And, indeed, in the year that Methuselah died, the flood came.
Remembering that Abraham was the son of Terah the High priest of the temple in the Chaldean city of Ur, and he was, according to the erroneous Roman OT, 58 when Noah died, but who, according to the Septuagint, was born 822 years after the death of Noah, the question is now asked, could the Chaldean name ‘Arsates’ mean, ‘When he dies it will happen? And could the name ‘Xisuthrus’ have the same meaning as that of the name ‘Noah’, which is, “One who brings relief or comfort?”
The Chaldean month of Daesius, is the 2nd month, which corresponds with the biblical account that it was in the second month that the flood came. But there is a two-day discrepancy: the biblical account is the 17th day, [See Genesis 7: 11.] whereas the other is the 15th day.
These three flood accounts are so similar it becomes obvious that they originated from the one source.
Another interesting similarity between the Chaldean deluge story and the one as handed down through the Hebrew, is that before the flood, people lived extraordinary long lives until the god/gods declared that man shall no longer live past a restricted age limit. This signifies that the floods of both cultures mark the same transition in the history of the world, that being, the birth of the modern world.
The more that I am forced to look at the flood accounts, the more I am convinced that some catastrophic event occurred 4,500 years ago, which caused worldwide devastating floods and tsunamis, of which the more accurate account of the flood that devastated the civilized world of that day, can be found in the Hebrew culture that came down from the Chaldean Abraham, and his family, whose language and racial religion have remained intact for over 4,000 years.
WAS THERE AN EVENT WHERE THE KNOWN WORLD OF THAT DAY WAS INUNDATED ?
The major volcanic explosion of Hekla 4 in Iceland, which spewed out massive amounts of larva, coupled with a close encounter with a passing comet and a Tunguska like fireball, are believed to have been major issues in the inundation of Ireland that is said to have been left waste for 30 odd years, and the devastating flood around the Mediterranean Sea, which was the known civilized world in the days of Noah around 2350 B.C, the time when this catastrophic event is said to have occurred.
To those who are interested, I would advise them to read the complete “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997. Following is a small extract from said article.
. Marie-Agnes Courty (CNRS, Grignon) presented new archaeological data concerning a catastrophe inferred to have occurred in the Middle East c.2350 BC. She emphasized the importance of high-time-resolution archaeological investigations in the assessment of natural catastrophes on societal collapse, the data in this case indicating the combination of a burnt surface horizon and air blast, consistent with a Tunguska-like fireball, but possibly also a major volcanic event.
The evidence for regional environmental change at about the same time was confirmed and extended by Mike Baillie (Queen’s University Belfast), whose tree-ring analyses of Irish bog oaks showed very significant narrowing of the rings around the year 2345 BC, associated with identified tephra from the Icelandic Hekla 4 volcano, dated to 2310 +/- 20 BC. This suggests a volcanic origin of the c. 2350 BC event identified by Courty, but the period in question is also associated with other events, including floods, the creation of new lakes and even the traditional start of Chinese history! In Baillie’s words, 2345 BC ‘is a classic marker date, i.e. a date which will show up on a regular basis in studies of various kinds’.
Although the flood story as handed down from Noah to his descendant Abraham, may have been a local event around Ireland and the coasts of the Mediterranean Sea, and as far inland to the Euphrates and beyond, it would have been recorded as an event which had flooded their entire known world.
And according to the “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey,” there were world-wide volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and destructive floods, which have been recorded from many different civilisations around the globe.
The people of the pre-flood days would not have known that the circumference of the earth was almost 25,000 miles, nor would they have known how many continents and islands there are on this earth. Their known world was limited to the civilised world of those days.
According to the Septuagint, it was almost 900 years after the flood that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, and the daughters of righteous Lot, believed that of every man in the world, their father was the sole survivor, and for the salvation of the human race they deemed it necessary to fall pregnant to their father, who, being a righteous man, they believed that he would not consent. For this reason, they got him so intoxicated that he was oblivious to being raped.
The animals that were taken into the ark, would have been those which were chosen from the animals that had been forced to flee from the rising waters to the higher ground, upon which Noah would have presumably built the ark, which animals would have only been those of his known world that was flooded around the year 2350 BC.
The Ark, which was a rectangular chest-like floating container built of Kopherwood, would of necessity, have to be sealed inside and out with bitumen to stop it from leaking, and Kopherwood is simply any wood that is coated with tar/bitumen. The Ark was subject to tides, currents and wind, having no means of propulsion or steerage, it was guided by the hand of the Lord.
According to the Turin papyrus list, Teti ruled for six months, and Pepi 1, began his rule after Teti, which according to some Egyptologists, was 33 years later, leaving a gap of 33 years between Teti and his successor Pepi, this would support the belief that some catastrophic event occurred around that time, where the evidence shows that Ireland was inundated, around the time of the eruption of Helka4 and is said to have remained desolate for 30 years.
A flood of that magnitude would have surely been experienced throughout the Middle East, and perhaps Egypt was desolate and without a king or countrymen for some thirty years also. I believe that the flood that occurred in Noah’ day, around 2,350 BC, was an event that would have been recorded and handed down by a witness of that era, as a world-wide flood.
According to the “Report on Second Cambridge Conference,” an article by Mark Bailey Posted December 15 1997. There were major events occurring around the world at that time, floods, Meteorite strikes, caused by a close encounter with a disintegrating comet, presumable causing catastrophic world-wide tsunami’ etc, and the flood stories are found throughout the countries of the world.
Over 2,000 years before George Smith’s discovery of the deluge tablets in Iraq, there existed an account of the Chaldean [pre-Babylonian] flood myth. Berosus, an ancient Chaldean historian living in the time of Alexander the Great in the 4th century B.C.E, relayed to the Greeks the antiquity of his peoples deluge myth in the following words: “After the death of Ardates, his son Xisuthrus reigned eighteen sari. In his time happened a great deluge; the history of which is thus described.
The deity Cronos appeared to him in a vision, and warned him that upon the fifteenth day of the month Daesius there would be a flood, by which mankind be destroyed. He therefore enjoined him to write a history of the beginning, procedure, and conclusion of all things, and to bury it in the city of the sun at Sippara; and to build a vessel, and take with him into it his friends and relations; and to convey on board everything necessary to sustain life, together with all the different animals, [In the area of his known world] both birds and quadrupeds, and trust himself fearlessly to the deep.
Having asked the Deity whither he was to sail, he was answered, “To the Gods;” upon which he offered up a prayer for the good of mankind. He then obeyed the divine admonition and built a vessel five stadia in length, and two in breadth. Into this he put everything which he had prepared, and last of all conveyed into it his wife, his children and his friends. After the flood had been upon the earth, and was in time abated, Xisuthrus sent out birds from the vessel; which finding no food, nor any place whereupon they might rest their feet, returned to him again. After an interval of some days, he sent them forth a second time; and they now returned with their feet tinged with mud. He made a trial a third time with these birds; but they returned to him no more: from whence he judged that the surface of the earth had appeared above the waters.
He therefore made an opening in the vessel, and upon looking out found that it was stranded upon the side of some mountains; upon which he immediately quitted it with his wife, his children, and the pilot. Xisuhrus then paid his adoration to the earth: and having constructed an altar, offered sacrifices to the Gods.”
It should be noted that the account of the deluge relayed in the tablets discovered by George Smith differ only very slightly from Berosus’ account, which differs only slightly from the story handed down by the Chaldean, Abraham, whose father ‘Terah’ was High Priest in the temple of the Chaldean city of Ur.
The flood of Noah didn’t come as a surprise. It had been preached on for four generations. Something strange happened when Enoch was 65, from which time “He walked with God.” Enoch was given a prophecy that as long as his firstborn son ‘Methuselah’ was alive, the judgement of the flood would be withheld, but as soon as he died, the flood would be sent forth.
Enoch named his firstborn to reflect this prophecy. The name Methuselah comes from two roots: muth, a root that means death, and from shalach, which means ‘To Bring’ or ‘To Send Forth.’ Thus, the name Methuselah signifies, ‘His Death Shall Bring.’ And, indeed, in the year that Methuselah died, the flood came.
Remembering that Abraham was the son of Terah the High priest of the temple in the Chaldean city of Ur, and he was, according to the erroneous Roman OT, 58 when Noah died, but who, according to the Septuagint, was born 822 years after the death of Noah, the question is now asked, could the Chaldean name ‘Arsates’ mean, ‘When he dies it will happen? And could the name ‘Xisuthrus’ have the same meaning as that of the name ‘Noah’, which is, “One who brings relief or comfort?”
The Chaldean month of Daesius, is the 2nd month, which corresponds with the biblical account that it was in the second month that the flood came. But there is a two-day discrepancy: the biblical account is the 17th day, [See Genesis 7: 11.] whereas the other is the 15th day.
These three flood accounts are so similar it becomes obvious that they originated from the one source.
Another interesting similarity between the Chaldean deluge story and the one as handed down through the Hebrew, is that before the flood, people lived extraordinary long lives until the god/gods declared that man shall no longer live past a restricted age limit. This signifies that the floods of both cultures mark the same transition in the history of the world, that being, the birth of the modern world.
The more that I am forced to look at the flood accounts, the more I am convinced that some catastrophic event occurred 4,500 years ago, which caused worldwide devastating floods and tsunamis, of which the more accurate account of the flood that devastated the civilized world of that day, can be found in the Hebrew culture that came down from the Chaldean Abraham, and his family, whose language and racial religion have remained intact for over 4,000 years.
And you think that you are merged with the mind of Richard1965, and believe that he is not so ignorant, and that he actually knows the difference between larva, and Lava? Or could it be that he is just poorly educated.
And you think that you are merged with the mind of Richard1965, and believe that he is not so ignorant, and that he actually knows the difference between larva, and Lava? Or could it be that he is just poorly educated.
Yes, I did mean to type 'LARVA,' which I know is the worm-like form of a newly hatched insect before metamorphosis, and I also meant to type 'LAVA' which I know is the molten rock that issues from a volcano, or a fissure in the earth, what a pity that your mate Richard1965, doesn't know one from the other.
But I do realise that it was 'MOST PROBABLY' a simple typo, something we all do at times.
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