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Old 08-19-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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Internal inconsistency?
How is it internally inconsistent? Be specific.
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Old 08-19-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The Holy Spirit is the Christians only teacher since Jesus was resurrected and ascended into heaven. The reason Christians disagree on some things is because we have become dull of hearing(Heb 5:11) and sometimes we have accepted what man says without verifying it from Gods word.

However, conservative Christians will agree 100% on the basics, make that on the fundamentals
The verification should ALWAYS be the Spirit known by the characteristics Jesus taught. It is far too easy to be misled bythe Bible as thousands of different denominations claiming its authority demonstrate.
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Comments????Apology??? How do you reconcile your view with the New Covenant wherein Christ abides with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts," NOT the Bible????

Hebrews 8:10-11 King James Version (KJV)
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
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What is writtne in our hearts is the same thing tht God had written in the Bib le.
No it is NOT! What is "written in our hearts" is compatible with the Holy Spirit of agape as revealed and unambiguously demonstrated by Jesus, but not everything in the Bible IS compatible. Those who do not even KNOW the characteristics of the Holy Spirit are the only ones who are confused about that.
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IMO "after those day" refers to when this worls ends and those in heaven will not need to be taught.
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Ridiculous. Jesus instituted the New Covenant with His death on the Cross. No wonder you are confused, you are still operating under the Old Covenant. Sad.
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The Holy Spirit is the Christians only teacher since Jesus was resurrected and ascended into heaven. The reason Christians disagree on some things is because we have become dull of hearing(Heb 5:11) and sometimes we have accepted what man says without verifying it from Gods word.
The Holy Spirit of agape abides with us in our consciousness as the Comforter sent in Christ's name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts," NOT "written in ink" in the Bible! You test nothing against the Holy Spirit of agape because you don't even know what its characteristics ARE. You blindly accept everything without testing its Spirit.
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However, conservative Christians will agree 100% on the basics, make that on the fundamentals
Actually, the majority Christian churches are anti-Christ apostate as prophesied for these latter days.
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:42 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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What is writtne in our hearts is the same thing tht God had written in the Bib le.





IMO "after those day" refers to when this worls ends and those in heaven will not need to be taught.
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The Holy Spirit is the Christians only teacher since Jesus was resurrected and ascended into heaven. The reason Christians disagree on some things is because we have become dull of hearing(Heb 5:11) and sometimes we have accepted what man says without verifying it from Gods word.

However, conservative Christians will agree 100% on the basics, make that on the fundamentals
My heart has NO ROOM for VENGEANCE, HATE, OPPRESSION, JEALOUSY, MURDER, GUILT, ADULTERY, INCEST, and all the other LIES MEN have written about the GOD I know.
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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The verification should ALWAYS be the Spirit known by the characteristics Jesus taught. It is far too easy to be misled bythe Bible as thousands of different denominations claiming its authority demonstrate.
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: New England
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My heart has NO ROOM for VENGEANCE, HATE, OPPRESSION, JEALOUSY, MURDER, GUILT, ADULTERY, INCEST, and all the other LIES MEN have written about the GOD I know.
How much more your Heavenly Father?.
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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My heart has NO ROOM for VENGEANCE, HATE, OPPRESSION, JEALOUSY, MURDER, GUILT, ADULTERY, INCEST, and all the other LIES MEN have written about the GOD I know.

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How much more your Heavenly Father?.
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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God gave us the Bible to show us how to judge right and wrong, and how to treat other.
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You don't need a Bible for that!
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Yes we do. If compared our beliefs, we will find that some of yours disagree with what God says.

If you disagree with what is in the Bible, who is right, you or God?
It's man that is in a state of disagreement, when you compare their beliefs and interpretations.
My advice, do not eat "aged" yellow snow or believe everything that man has written or thought.

I have never needed the Bible to tell me what is right or wrong; and what is loving or not.
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Old 08-19-2016, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Yes we do. If compared our beliefs, we will find that some of yours disagree with what God says.

If you disagree with what is in the Bible, who is right, you or God?
When liberals use the Bible, it's God word. When anyone else uses it, it suddenly becomes "that book" or "your book" or ancient myth or my favorite one, "that's your interpretation".
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Old 08-19-2016, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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When liberals use the Bible, it's God word. When anyone else uses it, it suddenly becomes "that book" or "your book" or ancient myth or my favorite one, "that's your interpretation".
Because some people - thankfully by far the majority - can separate the wheat from the biblical chaff.

And then there's you and the other fundies - who swallow the whole enchilada because you don't have what it takes to parse allegory from metaphor, to separate truth from myth, sense from nonsense.
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