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Old 10-03-2016, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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There are a few doosies within our walk that remain controversial and some are as follows:

Male Angels?

Baptism in Jesus Name? ( The real outcome of Matt 28:19's Great Commission)?

Is the bread and wine the real consecrated body and blood of Christ OR remembrance of same?

Are we in the endtimes or the signs and pangs stage or either?

Can or does God manifest a female Holy Spirit ( what is His / Her name?). Hebrew Rauch -ha' Kodesh

If Jesus is the ONLY mediator to God " No one goes to the Father but by me" why intercessary prayer
to ANY one else?

Was Jesus giving us a on cross lesson of David's crying out "My God My God Why Has thou forsaken Me"? Despair for sins of the world?

Was 9/11 a series of Harbingers on America aka judgment? ( Is America falling from God?)

Does the continued hatred of certain TV evangelists keeping you from hearing the testimonials
of great men and women of God?

Are the church institutions responsible for "preparing" for end-times ? Do pastors and priests really
grasp , know or believe prophecy?

Have we begun to unknowingly abandon pro-life and opposition to same sex marriage in support
of the liberal spin.

Do we Christians really FEAR homosexuality (homophobia) or simply believe it doesn't fit Gods
creation plan?
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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I can 'hear' the testimonials of great men and women of God without TV evangelists. Someone invented these things called books. They can be read for free via libraries and no TV preacher is going to ask for money or try and sell over-priced survivalist supplies.
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Default Conversational Or Not ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE Is A Heaven Or Hell Issue ?

Controversial or not water baptism is a heaven or hell issue---John 3:5.


Controversial or not Sabbath rest is a heaven or hell issue---Hebrews 4.


Controversial or not all the bible is a heaven or hell issue----2 Timothy 3:16


Controversial or not what God said only is a heaven or hell issue---2 Peter 1:20-21


Controversial or not 90% bible believers is a heaven or hell issue----Matthew 5:17-20


Controversial or not marriages to divorced people is a heaven or hell issue----Romans 7:2-3


Controversial or not jewelry on is a heaven or hell issue----1 Peter 3:3


Controversial or not woman pastors is a heaven or hell issue-----1 Timothy 2


Controversial or not pagan holiday honor is a heaven or hell issue----John 4:24


Controversial or not long hair on a man is a heaven or hell issue----1 Cor. 11


Controversial or not man rebuking man is a heaven or hell issue----James 5:20


Controversial or not independent ministries is a heaven or hell issue----Romans 13:1


Controversial or not tongue regulations is a heaven or hell issue-----1 Cor. 14


Controversial or not submissive wives is a heaven or hell issue -----Ephesians 5:22-23


Controversial or not phony unity is a heaven or hell issue----Amos 3:3


Controversial or not ministry to bible mockers is a heaven or hell issue----Matthew 7:6


Controversial or not prayer for unbelievers is a heaven or hell issue---John 17:9


Controversial or not pagan godhead theology is a heaven or hell issue---John 8:24


Controversial or not wine without alcohol is a heaven or hell issue---Proverbs 20:1


Controversial or not marriage to young widow women is a heaven or hell issue----1 Timothy 5:9


Controversial or not giving to 90% bible believing ministries is a heaven or hell
issue----Galations 1:8-9


Controversial or not loyalty to counterfeit ministries is a heaven or hell
issue----Matthew 15:14


Controversial or not head coverings on women is a heaven or hell issue----1 Cor. 11






Are We On The Same Page In Christ ? Amos 3:3 and Psalms 133:1 and John 17:21 and Matthew 7:6
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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Default Controversy On What UNITY IS ENOUGH ?

People today say lets come together to get bodies healed and folks speaking in tongues.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if you wear jewelry-----1 Peter 3:3.




People today say lets come together for people to have financial favor and restored relationships.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if you work on Saturday-----Hebrews 4.




People today says lets come together to credit grace or the cross for salvation only.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if you say water baptism doesn't save people----John 3:5.




People today say lets come together for God to get people off dope and alcohol addictions.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if your into pagan godhead theology----John 8:24.




People say lets come together to advertise Jesus and fill up buildings only.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if your into woman pastors-----1 Timothy 2:9-14.




People say lets come together to love each other only.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if your marrying divorced people-----Romans 7:2-3.




People say lets come together to fund money into broadcasts and ministries for God.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if your into a pagan holiday to honor----John 4:24.




People say lets come together in God to stop legal abortion and legal gay marriages.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 if your okay with long hair on men-----1 Cor. 11.




People say lets come together in God to stop racism and segregation today.


Yet never mind Amos 3:3 with women in head coverings to pray only ---1 Cor. 11.






They call this a relationship with Jesus and not religion.


Like you can have a relationship with Jesus with 90% of the bible only-----Matthew 5:17-20.


Like you can be 90% real with God and be saved-----Matthew 7:21-24.


Like you can fake a conversion being 90% real only------2 Cor. 5:17.


Like you can hide behind gifts and fake being a spiritual giant-----Romans 11:29.


Like you can be a liberal and be saved-----Romans 6:1.


Like you can cry don't control me and be saved----2 Peter 1:20-21.


Like you can be an amateur teacher and be saved-----Matthew 15:14.


Like you can be an amateur student too long and be saved----Matthew 15:14.


Like you can worship inferiority in God and be saved----1 John 2:27.


Like excuses in God can save you----2 Timothy 2:15.


Like another book is superior to the bible to save you------Revelation 22:18-19.


Like self wisdom can save us-----Jeremiah 10:23.


Like self integrity can save us------Jeremiah 17:9.


Like the wisdom of God not enough on salvation----1 Cor. 1:25.


Like the bible not our 24/7 guide with any life encounter for salvation----John 14:26 and Psm 119:105.


Like God not in all the bible for salvation----2 Timothy 3:16 and Matthew 4:4




This what people mean by walls dividing people in God-----John 8:32.




Like God in everything called unity-----Amos 3:3.


Like God in everything with people together---Psalms 133:1.


Like God in everything with love in it----1 John 2:15.


Like God in everything with testimonies in it-----1 Thess. 5:12.


Like God in everything with accomplishments in it------Matthew 7:21-24.






Are We On The Same Team In God For 100% Real Christianity ? Amos 3:3 and 2 Cor. 6
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Old 10-14-2016, 02:41 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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There are a few doosies within our walk that remain controversial and some are as follows:

Male Angels?

Baptism in Jesus Name? ( The real outcome of Matt 28:19's Great Commission)?

Is the bread and wine the real consecrated body and blood of Christ OR remembrance of same?

Are we in the endtimes or the signs and pangs stage or either?

Can or does God manifest a female Holy Spirit ( what is His / Her name?). Hebrew Rauch -ha' Kodesh

If Jesus is the ONLY mediator to God " No one goes to the Father but by me" why intercessary prayer
to ANY one else?

Was Jesus giving us a on cross lesson of David's crying out "My God My God Why Has thou forsaken Me"? Despair for sins of the world?

Was 9/11 a series of Harbingers on America aka judgment? ( Is America falling from God?)

Does the continued hatred of certain TV evangelists keeping you from hearing the testimonials
of great men and women of God?

Are the church institutions responsible for "preparing" for end-times ? Do pastors and priests really
grasp , know or believe prophecy?

Have we begun to unknowingly abandon pro-life and opposition to same sex marriage in support
of the liberal spin.

Do we Christians really FEAR homosexuality (homophobia) or simply believe it doesn't fit Gods
creation plan?
are you looking for responses here, or are you going somewhere else with this?
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Old 10-14-2016, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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are you looking for responses here, or are you going somewhere else with this?
Shotgun posts seldom go anywhere. Look at Tonycubed
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Old 10-14-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Shotgun posts seldom go anywhere. Look at Tonycubed
yes, that is my perspective, too; which to me just means that they are meant for someone else, because obviously T3 would disagree with us, so there must be others, lol.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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seriously Mike think you would do well to just deal with one or maybe two topics in any one given post if you really want even the chance of any kind of serious dialogue on your thoughts.


FWIW, think Catholicism (and Orthodoxy and most Lutherans and likely many Anglicans among others) would respond that the Eucharist/Communion is in fact BOTH a solemn, joyous, and grateful remembrance/memorial of the saving actions of Christ in the past AND (most especially through the reverent consumption of His body and blood) a special and intimate union with the on-going benefits and nourishment from His ETERNAL sacrifice made present to us "in the breaking of the bread" in the here and now and forever. one might add that along with the first two concepts, the Communion can also be regarded as a sign of the loving unity and fellowship of the community of Christians SHARING together this holy mystery in the form of a meal together. (at least) THREE aspects/experiences/benefits of the Eucharist for the price of one, LOL.

OTOH, perhaps the real controversial beliefs that separates and polarizes people within and without Christianity is whether Jesus existed at all and if He did who was He REALLY---what does "Son of God" mean and how could His death (or life) have any special effect on the "eternal salvation" (whatever that might mean) of His believers?

in the peace of Christ

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Old 10-15-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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seriously Mike think you would do well to just deal with one or maybe two topics in any one given post if you really want even the chance of any kind of serious dialogue on your thoughts

OTOH, perhaps the real controversial beliefs that separates and polarizes people within and without Christianity is whether Jesus existed at all and if He did who was He REALLY---what does "Son of God" mean and how could His death (or life) have any special effect on the "eternal salvation" (whatever that might mean) of His believers?

in the peace of Christ

LOL, I seem to have also made a long list of questions that would be difficult to explore or discuss in one post---so sorry.
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Old 10-16-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Of course Christians don't FEAR homosexuality.
well, it is fair to ask why treating them differently is espoused by churches.
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