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Old 10-14-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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Seems Hillary was really stupid for picking a solid Catholic as running mate, eh???

TIm Kaine:

1. Kaine was raised Catholic
Kaine was raised by devoutly Catholic parents in Missouri. In an interview with C-SPAN Kaine talked about the extent of his parents’ Catholic devotion, stating: “If we got back from a vacation on a Sunday night at 7:30 p.m., they would know the one church in Kansas City that had an 8 p.m. Mass that we can make.”
Kaine also attended a Jesuit all-boys high school. Catholic Jesuits, or the Society of Jesus, are priests who live by four oaths or principles, including obedience to worldwide mission. The Order focuses on issues of poverty, service, and justice.


2. Kaine served as a missionary in the Honduras
While attending Harvard Law School Kaine realized that he had been drifting away from the Catholic church and was uncertain about what he wanted to do with his life. Between 1980 and 1981 he decided to take some time off, and after appealed to Jesuits in Honduras they allowed him to volunteer in charge of a vocation school teaching carpentry and welding skills to teenage boys. Kaine said that his year in Honduras put him back on a path to service and Catholic worship.

3. Kaine and wife Anne have belonged to the same church for 30 years
Kaine and his wife, Anne Holton attend St. Elizabeth Catholic Church in a poor, predominantly black working-class neighborhood in Richmond, Virginia. It is the same church that they have been attending for 30 years, and where they were married in 1984. Kaine is also a Tenor in the church choir. In an interview with NPR, Father Jim Arsenault, the priest at St. Elizabeth, had the following to say about Kaine as church parishioner and member of the close-knit community:
This past Good Friday, we were about ready to start the procession for the veneration of the cross. And Tim was in back of church. And I said to him, hey Tim, we need your help. Help us carry this cross. It was sort of life-size. And he said sure. And gospel choir was singing some gospel spiritual songs. And Tim was there as people with tears in their eyes would venerate the cross. And they’d come up, and he’d help them up after they were kneeling or something. And he’d shake their hand, and he’d practically pull them up. And then they’d give Tim a nice hug. Everybody knows Tim Kaine.
4. Kaine struggles with the congruence of political life and faith
Kaine has grappled with “issues of congruence between life and faith” with regard to the death penalty. He has said that he struggled as Virginia governor in a state that not only uses the death penalty, but has done so significantly more than most other states. While he commuted one sentence of an individual on death row, at least 11 or 12 other inmates were executed, which conflicts with his church’s teachings about the sanctity of life.

Regarding school abstinence programs he said:
I like abstinence-focused programs, but I do believe (and the research confirms) that youngsters must also be given information about sexuality and contraception or the programs will not accomplish the goal of reducing sexual activity and unwanted pregnancy. Abstinence-only is more of a political statement than a true effort to help youngster.
It has been noted that Kaine’s struggle with abortion – namely that he is personally pro-life but politically pro-choice – is representative of the view that is held by many in America: a personal opposition to abortion, but a respect for the law and a woman’s right to make her own choices. (my own view exactly) Too bad that Kentucky clerk didn't have the respect for law that Kaine does.

5. Kaine supports women in the priesthood
Like Kaine, Pope Francis is a fellow Jesuit, and his efforts to modernize the Catholic church have included liberalizing views of homosexuality. When the Pope visited Washington D.C. in 2015, Kaine made an appeal to the Pope to allow women to be ordained in the Catholic church, arguing that allowing women to become priests would have a significantly positive influence on the world. He state:
If women are not accorded equal place in the leadership of the Catholic Church and the other great world religions, they will always be treated as inferiors in earthly matters as well. There is nothing this Pope could do that would improve the world as much as putting the Church on a path to ordain women.
(all material from Tim Kaine’s Religion: 5 Fast Facts You Need To Know | Heavy.com )

Janelle if you could be half the Catholic Kaine is, you might be considered as a replacement for Mother T.

Kaine is Catholic in name only, the debate showed that with him being so pro-choice. Hillary surrounds herself with these kinds of people. Also, Kaine went to Honduras to learn about the socialist liberation theology. He if far from being a "devout" Catholic.

One can't be personally pro-life but politically pro-choice. He needs to talk to his spiritual advisor, if he has one.

 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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IMO, Hillary is going to win, and while I don't know for what exactly, she'll declare martial law during her presidency and it's all downhill from there. Call it a hunch. Peace
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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Kaine is Catholic in name only, the debate showed that with him being so pro-choice. Hillary surrounds herself with these kinds of people. Also, Kaine went to Honduras to learn about the socialist liberation theology. He if far from being a "devout" Catholic.

One can't be personally pro-life but politically pro-choice. He needs to talk to his spiritual advisor, if he has one.
Congratulations! On the hubris scale of 1 to 10, (10 being alarming)....you hit 11!! Usually the people who hit 11 think the Catholics are all going to hell.....but they'll probably give you a hearty welcome for this rather spectacular piece of misinformation coated in religion.

Which means you can happily vote for the guy who has been pandering to people who share Jim Bob Duggar's beliefs while bragging about grabbing women's genitals. Not to mention piling up accusers like most people pile up junk mail. Such a special club full of very special people. Please proceed to the Trump 2016 booth to collect your payout...I mean prize. I hear the inflatable women are going fast.

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Old 10-14-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Catholic Association to Tim Kaine: What Is Your Response to Anti-Catholic Emails From Clinton Advisers?
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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Congratulations! On the hubris scale of 1 to 10, (10 being alarming)....you hit 11!!

Which means you can happily vote for the guy who has been pandering to people who share Jim Bob Dugger's beliefs while bragging about grabbing women' genitals. Please proceed to the Trump 2016 booth to collect your payout...I mean prize.
You need to collect the prize for the most gullible. This is how Democrats win, with the Alinsky rules for radicals. It's really getting old. Remember Herman Cain, Clarance Thomas and all the rest? the women who accused them all disappeared after they did their dirty work.

But even is it's true it's not as horrendous as what Hillary did with all her scandals and Benghazi, that is the bottom feeder. Can't get worse then that.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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Remember Herman Cain, Clarance Thomas and all the rest? the women who accused them all disappeared after they did their dirty work.
How can we forget Clarence Thomas? Thankfully very few men brag about finding a pubic hair on their can of Coke.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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You need to collect the prize for the most gullible. This is how Democrats win, with the Alinsky rules for radicals. It's really getting old. Remember Herman Cain, Clarance Thomas and all the rest? the women who accused them all disappeared after they did their dirty work.

But even is it's true it's not as horrendous as what Hillary did with all her scandals and Benghazi, that is the bottom feeder. Can't get worse then that.
The women are still alive and well, and still telling their story..

I am appalled that eh evangelical cult could ever get a woman to turn on other omen and actually testify for a man they do not even know--even the organized church has rejected he idiot...
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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The nice thing is we are free to leave this country and move to a better one!
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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IMO, Hillary is going to win, and while I don't know for what exactly, she'll declare martial law during her presidency and it's all downhill from there. Call it a hunch. Peace
Did the vision appear within the smoke of burning books?
 
Old 10-14-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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Fr. Pavone Asks Catholic Priests, Laity to Call on Mrs. Clinton to Denounce Anti-Catholic Bigotry
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