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Old 10-24-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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geez, zhatz tries to say we have Christ wrong, when he is disproven by Christ's own words,
and you say there is no backwards, when Christ said the first commandment IS "first and
foremost". (order).


there can be no more to discuss, it is so plain, and so known by anyone who is of God's
spirit, that you are seeking argument against God, due to incomprehension, refusal to
acknowldge, or demonic oppression.
Order of importance, not chronology.
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:45 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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geez, zhatz tries to say we have Christ wrong, when he is disproven by Christ's own words,
and you say there is no backwards, when Christ said the first commandment IS "first and
foremost". (order).


there can be no more to discuss, it is so plain, and so known by anyone who is of God's
spirit, that you are seeking argument against God, due to incomprehension, refusal to
acknowldge, or demonic oppression.

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.

For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Logically, we must LOVE out NEIGHBOR whom we SEE

BEFORE we can LOVE GOD whom we have NEVER SEEN.

For if we claim to LOVE God and NOT our neighbor, WE ARE LIARS.

Therefore, we must LOVE our NEIGHBOR FIRST...

Understanding and comprehending the scriptures is VITAL to prevent one from showing themselves the naive schoolboy.

P.S

We can also LOVE outside of God as there is NO requirement to love God prior to anything, the only prerequisite is LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR before we can honestly claim to love God..
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.

For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Logically, we must LOVE out NEIGHBOR whom we SEE

BEFORE we can LOVE GOD whom we have NEVER SEEN.

For if we claim to LOVE God and NOT our neighbor, WE ARE LIARS.

Therefore, we must LOVE our NEIGHBOR FIRST...

Understanding and comprehending the scriptures is VITAL to prevent one from showing themselves the naive schoolboy.

P.S

We can also LOVE outside of God as there is NO requirement to love God prior to anything, the only prerequisite is LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR before we can honestly claim to love God..

And there is the root of the problem. Logic and faith (in the word spoken and recorded) have nothing to do with each other. You were shown right order, and you reject it for your own logic. Peace
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: USA
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And there is the root of the problem. Logic and faith (in the word spoken and recorded) have nothing to do with each other. You were shown right order, and you reject it for your own logic. Peace
Logic and faith [in an inerrant, infallible bible] have nothing to do with each other. You got that right.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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YES, once again LOVE raises its beautiful head..

If we never KNOW love, we can NEVER know GOD..
Not the human kind.

The son of man lives by the love of the Lord and the servant of God lives in His mercy.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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Logic and faith [in an inerrant, infallible bible] have nothing to do with each other. You got that right.

You notice there I said SPOKEN AND recorded. One witnesses the other, which is how you know what to have faith IN. Peace
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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And there is the root of the problem. Logic and faith (in the word spoken and recorded) have nothing to do with each other. You were shown right order, and you reject it for your own logic. Peace
It is Christ's LOGIC you reject in favor for your misunderstanding of your god's reverse psychology.

LOVE---MERCY--JUSTICE---trumps peace every time...there can be NO PEACE without MERCY, LOVE and JUSTICE...
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Logic and faith [in an inerrant, infallible bible] have nothing to do with each other. You got that right.
ok, that is not fair, as Z's post "love your neighbor" is not logical from a natural pov. So you guys have abused the concept there imo
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.


We can also LOVE outside of God as there is NO requirement to love God prior to anything, the only prerequisite is LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR before we can honestly claim to love God..
Notice the bolded. Jesus said otherwise.

The first and greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God. A Second is like it. To love your neighbor as yourself.

Matthew 22;
36 "Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?"
37 He said to him, " "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
38 This is the greatest and first commandment.
39 And a second is like it: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'

The reason a second is like it is because those who truly continue in the word love God and neighbor in the same manner.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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You notice there I said SPOKEN AND recorded. One witnesses the other, which is how you know what to have faith IN. Peace
Yes, as long as the "inerrant, infallible bible" which you have faith in doesn't contradict what is spoken, then you'll accept what is spoken. It all comes back to having faith in the bible (which defies logic, I agree).


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ok, that is not fair, as Z's post "love your neighbor" is not logical from a natural pov. So you guys have abused the concept there imo
I was responding to Rbbi, not Z. You may wish to take it up with her if you have a problem with the turn she took.
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