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The difference is that God is holy and God is sovereign.
Matthew 10
28 Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Hebrews 10
12 He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God, 13*waiting from that time onward until His enemies be made a footstool for His feet.
Rev. 20
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Exactly ... the difference is that God is holy and God is sovereign.
for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.
Certain individuals hate that God is Sovereign. The chief of all who hates that God is Sovereign is the defeated enemy,Satan along with his hoard.
“Then he [Jesus] will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed,
into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.' "
The gift based comment is in relation to how you're always banging on about what appears to be a rules based relationship to the Father - we have to do this, and we have to do that, but that is in complete contrast to how you were freely given your initial and amazing experiences - yes, I believe you had them. Add to that all the rest of the gifts you boast about, and it's a heady mix for people to accept - Indeed, it does more to p155 them off. So, when I say bread has to be broken, I'm getting at the concept of a faith that relates to the ordinary person, not someone with as equal and weighty calling as you, in what appears to be a career of looking for disciples to urge on. I have totally and utterly not got any service or ministry I'm looking to build or engage with, with anyone - there's far too many folks trying to find some sort of internal purpose / or crutch with others in the 'saved' club.
"Freely" given? If you call "free" staying in the word 16 hours a day for the first 2 years, in OBEDIENCE to scriptures about those that DILIGENTLY seek Him, asking Him for wisdom, then applying yourself to receive it. Like it or not close relationship with Him costs something.
And darn right I boast.....I boast IN THE LORD and what He has done for me, and what is available to the believers, continually telling others that He is no respecter of persons, He will do the same for anyone. If you don't praise Him for what He has done, you're not grateful and not willing to suffer reproach in His name.
It only p155es off the spirits in them, which is exactly what He intends for it to do. A right heart motive feels joy when one of the brethren is healed, delivered, ect., and praises G-d for it. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out that only the darkness has a problem with it. If He didn't raise stuff up in people many times they would never know it was there. Once raised up, they know in their heart if it needs to be dealt with, and so a choice is presented. Choose ye this day whom ye will serve.
As for what "appears to be a career of looking for disciples to urge on", we're all accountable for what we know, and for sharing the bread we've been given. That's all I do, all the motive there is. Peace
The difference is that God is holy and God is sovereign.
There is no difference ...... We are called to be imitators of God, the God that Jesus Christ was and is the exact representation of all that God is. The same Jesus who came from God with a message of love your enemies.
Playing you at your own game......for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."
Problem is, NO ONE is walking in His holiness YET. He gave me the grace and covered me to walk in it once for about 15 minutes and carnal man cannot fathom what that is like. Peace
It only p155es off the spirits in them, which is exactly what He intends for it to do. A right heart motive feels joy when one of the brethren is healed, delivered, ect., and praises G-d for it. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out that only the darkness has a problem with it. If He didn't raise stuff up in people many times they would never know it was there. Once raised up, they know in their heart if it needs to be dealt with, and so a choice is presented. Choose ye this day whom ye will serve.
I didn't think you'd stoop this low, with the threats. I'm sure they're equally your demons, as much as mine.
Choose ye this day whom you will serve. You're implying I'm serving Satan, and subject to demons.
NO, you took it wrong. It was a scripture to back up what I said about a choice being presented in the hearts of those that take offense over healings, gifts, anything, from the Lord. It was a PRINCIPLE being "fleshed out". I could have added the wheat and the tares are raised up together, because that fits the situation, as well. ANY TIME there is ANYTHING presented OF THE LORD, if tares are present, they will raise up, too. It's an unbreakable law. Peace
Problem is, NO ONE is walking in His holiness YET. He gave me the grace and covered me to walk in it once for about 15 minutes and carnal man cannot fathom what that is like. Peace
Well what a waste of time it being written BE. Regardless, if we are to be holy as he is, then it is one kind of holiness not two, so the expression of it will be the same. It will not be you love your enemy, i will hate them. Holiness does not express itself that way neither can it. Jesus Christ is all that we believe ourselves not to be.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
The difference is that God is holy and God is sovereign.
There is no difference ...... We are called to be imitators of God, the God that Jesus Christ was and is the exact representation of all that God is. The same Jesus who came from God with a message of love your enemies.
Playing you at your own game......for it is written: "Be holy, because I am holy."
Yes, we are to love God and others and walk in holiness. But, God will serve justice to His enemies in the end. Jesus spoke of it in the Olivet Discourse.
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