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Old 07-25-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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JESUS said that in him was the fulfillment of the LAW and all that had been written about Him
RESPONSE: Not exactly.


“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

It was written 50 years after the death of Jesus by an anonymous writer whom Papias named Matthew in about 135 AD.

Nonetheless, it was Paul who declared that the Law had passed away. Evidently, Jesus was mistaken here.
The law has “passed away” (2 Cor. 3:11). The law was “cast out” (Gal. 4:21-30).

One of them was wrong!
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Old 07-25-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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RESPONSE: No. Jesus was executed by the Romans as an insurrectionist in 30-33 AD.

(But, as in the case of Elvis Presley, there are lots of stories going around).
Scripture states he rose again from the dead. If he did not rose from the dead there be no Christianity:

It was subject to every sermon in the book of Acts.

If Christ did not rise from tron the dead then Jesus Christ would be a liar:
Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and will hand him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify him, and on the third day he will be raised up (Matthew 20:18,19).

If it didn't happen every thing he said would be in doubt.
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Old 07-25-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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Scripture states he rose again from the dead. If he did not rose from the dead there be no Christianity:

It was subject to every sermon in the book of Acts.

If Christ did not rise from tron the dead then Jesus Christ would be a liar:
Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and will hand him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify him, and on the third day he will be raised up (Matthew 20:18,19).

If it didn't happen every thing he said would be in doubt.
RESPONSE: Yes. Now you understand!

Note that New Testament Matthew was written 50 years after it is claimed that Jesus said that he would rise from the dead.

What impartial credible witness evidence is there that Jesus did, in fact, rise from the dead?

Did any members of Jerusalem's occupying Roman army report such?

Why not?

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Old 07-25-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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RESPONSE: Yes. Now you understand!

Note that New Testament Matthew was written 50 years after it is claimed that Jesus said that he would rise from the dead.

What impartial credible witness evidence is there that Jesus did, in fact, rise from the dead?

Did any members of Jerusalem's occupying Roman army report such?

Why not?

It is clear you are not a Christian. I done with this thread. I will still pray for you.

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Old 07-25-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Scripture states he rose again from the dead. If he did not rose from the dead there be no Christianity:

It was subject to every sermon in the book of Acts.

If Christ did not rise from tron the dead then Jesus Christ would be a liar:
Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death, and will hand him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify him, and on the third day he will be raised up (Matthew 20:18,19).

If it didn't happen every thing he said would be in doubt.
RESPONSE: One more time. We don't know what Jesus really said. The gospels were written to make converts 40 to 80 years after Jesus death.

Excerpted from A Concise History of the Catholic Church
By Father Thomas Bokenkotter, SS

"The Gospels were not meant to be a historical or biographical account of Jesus. They were written to convert unbelievers to faith in Jesus as the Messiah of God, risen and living now in his church and coming again to judge all men. Their authors did not deliberately invent or falsify facts about Jesus, but they were not primarily concerned with historical accuracy. They readily included material drawn from the Christian communities' experience of the risen Jesus. Words, for instance, were put in the mouth of Jesus and stories were told about him which, though not historical in the strict sense, nevertheless, in the minds of the evangelists, fittingly expressed the real meaning and intent of Jesus as faith had come to perceive him. For this reason, scholars have come to make a distinction between the Jesus of history and the Christ of faith."
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