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Old 07-31-2017, 05:56 AM
 
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Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 1

11 Of what use are your many sacrifices to Me? says the Lord. I am sated with the burnt-offerings of rams and the fat of fattened cattle; and the blood of bulls and sheep and hegoats I do not want.

Many claim that G-d said that He did not desire sacrifice, then how is the bolded above explained away?...
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 1

11 Of what use are your many sacrifices to Me? says the Lord. I am sated with the burnt-offerings of rams and the fat of fattened cattle; and the blood of bulls and sheep and hegoats I do not want.

Many claim that G-d said that He did not desire sacrifice, then how is the bolded above explained away?...
God instituted the Levitical sacrificial system for 2 basic reasons. First, it gave man a way to have his sins forgiven and to show he did not have to die for his sins. Second they were only a shadow of the substitutionary atonement of Jesus.

When what we do for God becomes a meaningless ritual or done out of duty, they are no longer of value. He prefers obedience and knowledge of Him.
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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God instituted the Levitical sacrificial system for 2 basic reasons. First, it gave man a way to have his sins forgiven and to show he did not have to die for his sins. Second they were only a shadow of the substitutionary atonement of Jesus.
But yet G-d states that no man may be substituted for another...
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 1

11 Of what use are your many sacrifices to Me? says the Lord. I am sated with the burnt-offerings of rams and the fat of fattened cattle; and the blood of bulls and sheep and hegoats I do not want.

Many claim that G-d said that He did not desire sacrifice, then how is the bolded above explained away?...
RESPONSE: Perhaps as an error made by a story writer?
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:18 AM
 
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RESPONSE: Perhaps as an error made by a story writer?
Go on...Tell me more...
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Old 07-31-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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May I suggest that a better idea of the meaning might be gotten from a different translation? NAS 11"What are your multiplied sacrifices to Me?" Says the LORD. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle; And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs or goats.

Personally, I don't believe that it was God that originally ordered blood sacrifices, but this verse does not in any way prove that.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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God instituted the Levitical sacrificial system for 2 basic reasons. First, it gave man a way to have his sins forgiven and to show he did not have to die for his sins. Second they were only a shadow of the substitutionary atonement of Jesus.

When what we do for God becomes a meaningless ritual or done out of duty, they are no longer of value. He prefers obedience and knowledge of Him.
God always required obedience and knowledge of him. Just castaways those animals are thought of as their blood never atoned for a single thing.

It has only become more obvious while studying scriptures that there are two Gods who are vying for the souls of men. The Bible has not just one theme.

Is Baphomet the one who Leonardo Da Vinci had sit in the place of Christ inside of a painting? If so, what did the Renaissance painter mean? God is the one who atoned.

Per animal rights has the conscience of the church been seared? The torture animals are put through to be sacrificed happens practically every second when they are slaughtered.

The blood ritual sacrifices Isaiah 1 makes a sermon of goes right with Isaiah 66:3: "He who slaughters an ox is like he who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like him who breaks a dog's neck."


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Old 07-31-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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The blood ritual sacrifices Isaiah 1 makes a sermon of goes right with Isaiah 66:3: "He who slaughters an ox is like he who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like him who breaks a dog's neck."


Well THAT looks like a tougher nut.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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richardo ....... why didn't you put all the other scripture which say the same thing and all quoting the same old scripture...... because only in context does it make sense. people please quote it all in context or not at all.. everyone needs to look it up themselves if the scriptures are not quote in context.

dang ..
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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God instituted the Levitical sacrificial system for 2 basic reasons. First, it gave man a way to have his sins forgiven and to show he did not have to die for his sins. Second they were only a shadow of the substitutionary atonement of Jesus.

When what we do for God becomes a meaningless ritual or done out of duty, they are no longer of value. He prefers obedience and knowledge of Him.
now here is someone with knowledge of God! thank you for your bit to add sanity to this thread.
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