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Well, obviously, we see things differently, but I guess time will tell which of us is right, huh?
See things differently, or would Not consider the time will come when humble meek people will inherit the Earth.
To me the healing of earth's nations takes place on Earth because earth's nations are Not in heaven.- Rev. 22:2.
Angels in heaven do Not need food, so the food from the trees are right here on Earth.
I find Jesus will have earthly subjects or citizens on Earth according to Psalm 72:8, 12-14.
Also, as one person said to me there are No tombs in heaven, so Jesus resurrecting people out of the tombs indicated to her a physical earthly resurrection because there are No tombs in heaven.- John 5:28.
I believe we are in the last days of badness on Earth as described at 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13 and are nearing the ' final signal ' so to speak, of 1st Thess. 5:2-3 when ' they ' (the powers that be) will be saying, "Peace and Security" as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill. These persons will be here to welcome back those who will have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection with the opportunity to gain everlasting life on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
According to you, but not according to scripture itself. Everybody interprets scripture differently, and while one person's interpretation may turn out to be right and another's wrong, all we can do is live the best we can, based upon our own understanding of what God expects of us.
2Ti 3:16* All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,*
2Ti 3:17* that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.*
What God expects of us who wish to be with Him is to believe the gospel He gave to Paul by revelation. Then we are to spread that gospel of grace to others, be able to handle the word expertly and thank Jesus endlessly for the righteousness HE freely gives to us........it's what HE DID that's important, we have nothing to offer but our belief and trust in Christ. The mormon view of things is quite different however.
2Ti 3:16* All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,*
2Ti 3:17* that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.*
There is a huge difference between "inerrant" and "profitable." I don't disagree with these scriptures in the slightest.
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What God expects of us who wish to be with Him is to believe the gospel He gave to Paul by revelation. Then we are to spread that gospel of grace to others, be able to handle the word expertly and thank Jesus endlessly for the righteousness HE freely gives to us........it's what HE DID that's important, we have nothing to offer but our belief and trust in Christ. The mormon view of things is quite different however.
You don't need to educate me on "the Mormon view of things." A great many Christians, including most Catholics, believe that we have far more to offer than "our belief and trust in Christ." Furthermore, we can substantiate our beliefs with countless passages from the Bible, passages that people who disagree with us simply choose to ignore.
Do the people of this forum fail to see the significance of being able to offer up our goods works as atonement for the sins of the lost souls in hell? Your family and friends who died without faith can have their souls restored (salvaged) by the divine power of Christ and be with you, friends, family, God, Jesus, and the angels in heaven. Doesn't this mean anything to you?
Do the people of this forum fail to see the significance of being able to offer up our goods works as atonement for the sins of the lost souls in hell? Your family and friends who died without faith can have their souls restored (salvaged) by the divine power of Christ and be with you, friends, family, God, Jesus, and the angels in heaven. Doesn't this mean anything to you?
Thank you for inquiring for lost souls to once lost can never be regained back to life cast into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The Egyptian concept that there is real hellfire at levels of hell of an eternal kind cannot be denied, for that is the same system of how Christians believed.
There is no two-tier system which exists because if one hears the truth of the Gospel that at least there was something else than what they had never had.
The Gospel of the Lord Yeshua Christ at whether the church is perfect or not has been used as for excuses to not adhere to the same ideal Christ founded.
Everyone has heard something, whether it be God appears in a dream to them, or they harness a radio on, or see the mountain formations have clouded.
Paul wrote that those who sleep in Christ will given the life they earned and those who made the choice to plunder on will be given earns as for sentenced.
That what is invested in a life-time no matter how long or short everyone has heard something about the perfection of Christ and there are none excused.
'Owe no man anything' that if you do then leave the altar and make it right or let it go as it makes no difference but it will because there is nothing but God.
If one has made that choice to shut God out as to separate themselves from him and his dominion over their life ways then that is what they have choiced.
God will not force himself upon those who don't want to live for him in their heart for if grace and truth is not important to them then never will it be filled.
Those who gave their lives for the Gospel whether they were right or wrong in every point given by their testimony of Christ that they choiced to be dead.
Rather than give up their faith and everyone has heard just something about a Messiah who gave his life to resurrect those asleep in Christ who are buried.
[font=Georgia]Thank you for inquiring for lost souls to once lost can never be regained back to life cast into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
So how do you think a soul gets lost in the first place?
Originally Posted by lowlyservant Do the people of this forum fail to see the significance of being able to offer up our goods works as atonement for the sins of the lost souls in hell? Your family and friends who died without faith can have their souls restored (salvaged) by the divine power of Christ and be with you, friends, family, God, Jesus, and the angels in heaven. Doesn't this mean anything to you?
Orion Rules wrote:
Thank you for inquiring for lost souls to once lost can never be regained back to life cast into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The Egyptian concept that there is real hellfire at levels of hell of an eternal kind cannot be denied, for that is the same system of how Christians believed.
There is no two-tier system which exists because if one hears the truth of the Gospel that at least there was something else than what they had never had.
The Gospel of the Lord Yeshua Christ at whether the church is perfect or not has been used as for excuses to not adhere to the same ideal Christ founded.
Everyone has heard something, whether it be God appears in a dream to them, or they harness a radio on, or see the mountain formations have clouded.
Paul wrote that those who sleep in Christ will given the life they earned and those who made the choice to plunder on will be given earns as for sentenced.
That what is invested in a life-time no matter how long or short everyone has heard something about the perfection of Christ and there are none excused.
'Owe no man anything' that if you do then leave the altar and make it right or let it go as it makes no difference but it will because there is nothing but God.
If one has made that choice to shut God out as to separate themselves from him and his dominion over their life ways then that is what they have choiced.
God will not force himself upon those who don't want to live for him in their heart for if grace and truth is not important to them then never will it be filled.
Those who gave their lives for the Gospel whether they were right or wrong in every point given by their testimony of Christ that they choiced to be dead.
Rather than give up their faith and everyone has heard just something about a Messiah who gave his life to resurrect those asleep in Christ who are buried.
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Originally Posted by Orion Rules Thank you for inquiring for lost souls to once lost can never be regained back to life cast into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Katzpur: So how do you think a soul gets lost in the first place?
Because of the choices that one may make in that they feel they are above the Golden Rule to repent and change.
If one murders, steals, extorts, plays political animal, lies to the public in order to create more servitude to vain.
If one kidnaps and tortures children so they may make them a partner in something that should never have been.
There is a whole list of what it takes to qualify and the Apostle Paul wrote of it as it's also in the Book of Revelation.
Because of the choices that one may make in that they feel they are above the Golden Rule to repent and change.
If one murders, steals, extorts, plays political animal, lies to the public in order to create more servitude to vain.
If one kidnaps and tortures children so they may make them a partner in something that should never have been.
There is a whole list of what it takes to qualify and the Apostle Paul wrote of it as it's also in the Book of Revelation.
That's nice. And those who never heard of the Golden Rule, or the Book of Revelation, or the Apostle Paul? Are these folks just "lost" by default? Or must a soul have have at least heard of the Golden Rule, the Book of Revelation and the Apostle Paul in order to then get lost? You do realize, I'm sure,
that billions have lived and died with absolutely zero knowledge of those things. (And just out of curiosity, you're not saying that Paul wrote the Book of Revelation are you? Your wording sort of makes it look that way.)
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