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Old 12-25-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Salvation for-FEW- out of all nations, or did you miss this??? Every kingdom( govt,armies,supporters) on earth will be mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king.Rev 16)-- they are now as well--they are apart of the world Jesus taught to be no part of. this is 99% of all mortals who will be mislead, they are now as well. iTS been the fact of mortal history all throughout with the possible exception when Israel stood strong in the ot, yet fell over and over.
Tammuz is the Anti-Christ people like to call Jesus, you have already accepted the Messiah of Babylon and wear his mark, Christianity has been keeping the ways of Tammuz for almost 2000 years.


Looking around for the people of Babylon?


Look in the mirror lol, Babylon is as Babylon does. I believe in a Jewish Messiah named Jesus, not a Babylonian Messiah named Jesus that looks a lot like the first.
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Old 12-25-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Salvation for-FEW- out of all nations, or did you miss this??? Every kingdom( govt,armies,supporters) on earth will be mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king.Rev 16)-- they are now as well--they are apart of the world Jesus taught to be no part of. this is 99% of all mortals who will be mislead, they are now as well. iTS been the fact of mortal history all throughout with the possible exception when Israel stood strong in the ot, yet fell over and over.
Yes, Israel stood strong in the OT yet we read how un-faithful Jerusalem fell in the year 70 by the Roman armies.
Since Pentecost Israel is No longer by flesh, No longer natural Israel, but by spirit or 'spiritual Israel'.
Since Pentecost it is 'Jerusalem above' as per Galatians 4:26.
Now a ' spiritual nation ' with No borders or boundaries found on any map - 1st Peter 2:9,5,
Now a Jew by spirit (a Christian) as per Romans 2:28-29 meaning both Jew and non-Jew can be Christian.
So, Jesus' words of Matthew 23:38 prove true that the old ' house ' of worship (temple) is abandoned by God.
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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Yes, Israel stood strong in the OT yet we read how un-faithful Jerusalem fell in the year 70 by the Roman armies.
Since Pentecost Israel is No longer by flesh, No longer natural Israel, but by spirit or 'spiritual Israel'.
Since Pentecost it is 'Jerusalem above' as per Galatians 4:26.
Now a ' spiritual nation ' with No borders or boundaries found on any map - 1st Peter 2:9,5,
Now a Jew by spirit (a Christian) as per Romans 2:28-29 meaning both Jew and non-Jew can be Christian.
So, Jesus' words of Matthew 23:38 prove true that the old ' house ' of worship (temple) is abandoned by God.
BUT THIS WHAT YOU KEEP SAYING IS NOT THE END OF THE STORY, HERE IS THE END OF THAT STORY. AND THE CHURCH HAS NO CLUE WHAT IT MEANS OR ARE THEY IN ANYWAY PREPARED FOR WHAT IS COMING. HIS KINGDOM STARTED IN HEAVEN ANDIN OUR HEARTS WILL WILL NOT END UP ONLY THERE.

Dan 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
Dan 7:10
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
Dan 7:11
¶
I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed and given to the burning flame.
Dan 7:12
As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
Dan 7:13
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Dan 7:14
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Dan 7:15
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I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
Dan 7:16
I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
Dan 7:17
These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.


Dan 7:20
And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
Dan 7:21

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Dan 7:22
Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Dan 7:23

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Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24
And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26

But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27
And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Dan 7:28
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Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.
JUST AS THE LAW IS UNTO THE FLESH .. THE LORD IS UNTO THE SPIRIT.. AND THE FATHER IS UNTO FIRE
ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM SPEAKS TO ALL THREE ... AND THUS IS ALL THREE AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN , BUT IN HIS TIMING NOT OURS..
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:50 AM
 
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I personally don't are much like Trump person, but I do think that Jerusalem can be only Israels capital. It have's every right for that. And I am sorry for the EU leaders hypocrisy whom say that Jerusalem is better be to halve a part to Israel, and part to muslim country Palestine.

EU it self wont take Turkey in union because it is a muslim country, and they seems to understand the many problems which can follow if Turkey join EU with millions of muslim, but in the Israels case they seems to forget all those issues, and say like "why you just can live in peace, and share this city?"
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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There is no Palestine.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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Tammuz is the Anti-Christ people like to call Jesus, you have already accepted the Messiah of Babylon and wear his mark, Christianity has been keeping the ways of Tammuz for almost 2000 years.


Looking around for the people of Babylon?


Look in the mirror lol, Babylon is as Babylon does. I believe in a Jewish Messiah named Jesus, not a Babylonian Messiah named Jesus that looks a lot like the first.

I would run quickly if my teachers taught that stuff.
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Old 12-26-2017, 07:50 PM
 
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Tammuz is the Anti-Christ people like to call Jesus, you have already accepted the Messiah of Babylon and wear his mark, Christianity has been keeping the ways of Tammuz for almost 2000 years.
Looking around for the people of Babylon?
Look in the mirror lol, Babylon is as Babylon does. I believe in a Jewish Messiah named Jesus, not a Babylonian Messiah named Jesus that looks a lot like the first.
If I recall, the non-Jews wore a "T" for Tammuz, and lowering a bit the top of the "T" formed the so-called Christians cross. So, I suppose one could collectively call them as anti-christ. So, it is 'so-called Christianity' or Christendom keeping the ways of Tammuz since the first century ended (Acts 20:29-30).
After all, Jesus did inform us that the fake ' weed/tares' Christians would grow together with the genuine ' wheat ' Christians until the Harvest Time, or the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37.

Yes, Babylon is as Babylon does. When the people migrated out of ancient Babylon they took with them their religious-myth ideas and practices and spread them into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. That is why we see so many overlapping or similar religious practices and ideas spread throughout today's religious world.

I do keep in mind the Jewish Messiah at Jesus' baptism, but who became the Jesus Christian Messiah of Daniel 9:25-26.
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Old 12-26-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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........., but I do think that Jerusalem can be only Israel's capital...................."
Jerusalem was Israel's seat of government or capital even since Solomon's day, but Jesus came along (Matthew 24) and told us how that fleshly natural Jerusalem would be abandoned by God at Matthew 23:38, and in the year 70 God used the Roman armies to go up against un-faithful Jerusalem thus fulfilling Jesus' words.

So, today Jerusalem for Christians is 'Jerusalem *above* ' as per Galatians 4:26.
In other words, for Christians the seat of government is now Heavenly Jerusalem or New Jerusalem - Rev. 20.
That capital of Spiritual Israel as mentioned at 1st Peter 2:9,5 is Not found located on any map.
Since Spiritual Israel has No borders or No boundaries anyone can become a citizen of Spiritual Israel. - Romans 2:28-29.
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Old 12-27-2017, 03:17 AM
 
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If I recall, the non-Jews wore a "T" for Tammuz, and lowering a bit the top of the "T" formed the so-called Christians cross. So, I suppose one could collectively call them as anti-christ. So, it is 'so-called Christianity' or Christendom keeping the ways of Tammuz since the first century ended (Acts 20:29-30).
After all, Jesus did inform us that the fake ' weed/tares' Christians would grow together with the genuine ' wheat ' Christians until the Harvest Time, or the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37.

Yes, Babylon is as Babylon does. When the people migrated out of ancient Babylon they took with them their religious-myth ideas and practices and spread them into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. That is why we see so many overlapping or similar religious practices and ideas spread throughout today's religious world.

I do keep in mind the Jewish Messiah at Jesus' baptism, but who became the Jesus Christian Messiah of Daniel 9:25-26.
Christians are sealed in their forehead and write hand with the name of Tammuz, Tammuz has always been the Messiah of Babylon, his name isn't ever going to change, and God's promise of how you get sealed in your forehead and right hand will NEVER change. Gentiles read revelation as if having a seal in their forehead was unheard of when Jews had been practicing it for thousands of years from the exodus.


You keep God's Sabbaths and priests and he promises to seal you in your head and right hand, and this according to the law of Moses. ACCORDING TO THE LAW, Tammuz IS the Babylonian Messiah of Christians, and we are shown the abominations of this same paganism brought up to the temple in Ezekiel 8 and 9.


It simply says,'' You keep Christmas and Easter as an abomination, and I will write the name of Tammuz in your forehead and you shall die in the 6th hour, in the 6th day, in the 6th year for keeping the ways of Tammuz, which Christians do,


It is no big mystery, the whole world knows that the church converted to the Babylonian worship system, it is in NO WAY, hidden. The Christians converted back to their former paganism that came from Babylon and whatever Sabbaths, holy days, and tradition you keep, THEY SEAL AND MARK YOU IN BETWEEN YOUR EYES AND UPON YOUR RIGHT HAND.


Not my law, God's law, the fact that whatever worship system you keep, you are CERTAINLY sealed by it. For death f for life, choose God and receive life.
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Old 12-27-2017, 03:18 AM
 
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Jerusalem was Israel's seat of government or capital even since Solomon's day, but Jesus came along (Matthew 24) and told us how that fleshly natural Jerusalem would be abandoned by God at Matthew 23:38, and in the year 70 God used the Roman armies to go up against un-faithful Jerusalem thus fulfilling Jesus' words.

So, today Jerusalem for Christians is 'Jerusalem *above* ' as per Galatians 4:26.
In other words, for Christians the seat of government is now Heavenly Jerusalem or New Jerusalem - Rev. 20.
That capital of Spiritual Israel as mentioned at 1st Peter 2:9,5 is Not found located on any map.
Since Spiritual Israel has No borders or No boundaries anyone can become a citizen of Spiritual Israel. - Romans 2:28-29.
It is just one Anti- Semite after the next, one replacement theory after the next, and the thing is, before you think you can replace Israel, you must be doing what is required of Israel through your loyalty to the commandments. Israel loves and keeps the commandments, where are those people again?
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