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Old 04-18-2018, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You have 0 proof of that. In Fact--In EVERY translation on earth, the teachings of Jesus are the same barring Earth or Land At Matt 5:5--God preserved his sons teachings. Those teachings point to the JW teachers as his. In EVERY translation on earth. Few know what he actually taught. Its very sad--Many give him lip service, yeet don't even know what he actually taught. Very strange.
You have zero proof that anything in the bible is true.
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You have 0 proof of that. In Fact--In EVERY translation on earth, the teachings of Jesus are the same barring Earth or Land At Matt 5:5--God preserved his sons teachings. Those teachings point to the JW teachers as his. In EVERY translation on earth. Few know what he actually taught. Its very sad--Many give him lip service, yet don't even know what he actually taught. Very strange.
His teachings point away from religion, not towards another hierarchy.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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You have zero proof that anything in the bible is true.
Ask God to show you rather than standing in opposition. Beg.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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His teachings point away from religion, not towards another hierarchy.

Jesus spoke to 7 congregations in Revelation, occurring as we speak==Proves, Jesus is with one single religion(1Cor 1:10)--As well, Jesus promised to appoint his anointed teachers( Matt 24:45) here in these last days as well. So your post is not truth and you need to relook, or need new teachers.
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You have 0 proof of that. In Fact--In EVERY translation on earth, the teachings of Jesus are the same barring Earth or Land At Matt 5:5--God preserved his sons teachings. Those teachings point to the JW teachers as his. In EVERY translation on earth. Few know what he actually taught. Its very sad--Many give him lip service, yeet don't even know what he actually taught. Very strange.
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His teachings point away from religion, not towards another hierarchy.
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Jesus spoke to 7 congregations in Revelation, occurring as we speak==Proves, Jesus is with one single religion (1Cor 1:10) -- As well, Jesus promised to appoint his anointed teachers (Matt 24:45) here in these last days as well. So your post is not truth and you need to relook, or need new teachers.
1 Corinthians 1:10
I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

Matthew 24:45-50
Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

No offense, but your teachers' have not been put in charge of anything.
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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You have zero proof that anything in the bible is true.

Are you here just to make fun and mock Christians since you obviously do not believe? It sure seems like it. Why waste your time?
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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Are you here just to make fun and mock Christians since you obviously do not believe? It sure seems like it. Why waste your time?
I don't think there was any mocking in that statement. It was rather factual.

I am Christian myself, but I don't state my view of my faith as if what I follow is factual. It has been my spiritual path for various reasons, but I know what worked out for me in my life doesn't ring true for everyone else. What I once heard from a Quaker cannot be stated too often: "I cannot tell others how to experience God. I can only know how I experience God."

When people make absolute statements about their beliefs as if they are obvious facts, it is illogical to think that non-believers are going to smack their foreheads and say, "Of course! Why didn't I see that before?"

What you see as fact is not obvious to a non-believer, and you should not expect that a non-believer sees what you do. Can you not look at it from their point of view and see that? Why not? IMO, you seriously need to do some looking at the way you address others instead of worrying about what they say.

Why can't you use "I statements" to say "I believe in the Catholic way because blah blah blah". Everyone won't agree with you, but they might respect your belief if you state it as your belief rather than something everyone else should see because you it's the way you see it.
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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You have zero proof that anything in the bible is true.
Can't nobody even prove that Jesus ever lived, and this is the truth, I mean, Personally, I have proved it to myself, but if I was a Jew and a skeptic, nobody has real proof, you right about that Kingfish.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Ask God to show you rather than standing in opposition. Beg.
No.

I want nothing from that psychotic character in Genesis.

I especially don't want to turn into a robot like that guy in your mirror.

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Are you here just to make fun and mock Christians since you obviously do not believe? It sure seems like it. Why waste your time?
I am here to reprove and correct fundamentalists - of which you are one.

I do not consider it a waste of my time. I consider it a service to mankind.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:39 PM
 
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I don't think there was any mocking in that statement. It was rather factual.

I am Christian myself, but I don't state my view of my faith as if what I follow is factual. It has been my spiritual path for various reasons, but I know what worked out for me in my life doesn't ring true for everyone else. What I once heard from a Quaker cannot be stated too often: "I cannot tell others how to experience God. I can only know how I experience God."

When people make absolute statements about their beliefs as if they are obvious facts, it is illogical to think that non-believers are going to smack their foreheads and say, "Of course! Why didn't I see that before?"

What you see as fact is not obvious to a non-believer, and you should not expect that a non-believer sees what you do. Can you not look at it from their point of view and see that? Why not? IMO, you seriously need to do some looking at the way you address others instead of worrying about what they say.

Why can't you use "I statements" to say "I believe in the Catholic way because blah blah blah". Everyone won't agree with you, but they might respect your belief if you state it as your belief rather than something everyone else should see because you it's the way you see it.
I also went to school and believed in my teacher's information or else they were all lying to me. I can also do my own research which we all do who go to school. Test it against real world experience.

To say how can you know anything in the bible is true, then why even be on a Christian forum? It's like the atheists who have to chime in each time religion is brought up online to say why do you believe in the sky fairy. Oh, I don't know. Maybe it's from reading the books and listening to theologians and scholars over the years who have spent their lives studying the subject. I think I will believe them over the people online who seemed to have never cracked open the bible, to inform me what is in it.
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