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Old 05-21-2018, 05:12 AM
 
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Jesus fulfilled Passover as the Lamb of God and Pentecost when the Father sent the Holy Spirit to the sons and daughters of men.

Acts 2
[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
[2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
[3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
[4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
[5] And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
[6] Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
[7] And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
[8] And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
[9] Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
[10] Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
[11] Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
[12] And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
Why wasn’t he cut into piece and burned and eaten then?...
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I can read just fine. You however obviously cannot. The Jewish feast days have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. God does not expect Christians to observe the Jewish feast days or convert to Judaism. Period.


Maybe I just should have said that you don't have a clue of what you are reading.


There is no more master and there is no more slave, there is no more female and there is no more male.


Do you think for a min that there is no more female and no more male?


That is ridiculous, when a Gentile becomes Israel, there is no more Gentile and no more Jew because a person is Gentile by flesh and there is a hidden Jew of the heart. There is no more female because the body is a house that is a female, and there is a hidden man of the hearts. There is no more slave because the body is a slave and there is a hidden free man of the heart. God didn't do away with Jew, he made both in one person dude.




Yeah, WHO CARES if you keep the feasts of God, you keep the feasts of devils.


You think just because you don't keep the feasts of our Lord that you can just go out and keep every feast, Sabbaths, tradition and rituals of the God of Babylon?


That what you think? We are not supposed to judge people in whether or not they keep all the laws of all the feasts, this doesn't have ANYTHING TO DO with your conversion to the Babylonian religion where you praise Tammuz by keeping everything that teaches of the Babylonian Messiah.


You are sorely mistaken if you think God will be ok with you keeping every pagan feast under every green tree.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:18 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Maybe I just should have said that you don't have a clue of what you are reading.


There is no more master and there is no more slave, there is no more female and there is no more male.


Do you think for a min that there is no more female and no more male?


That is ridiculous, when a Gentile becomes Israel, there is no more Gentile and no more Jew because a person is Gentile by flesh and there is a hidden Jew of the heart. There is no more female because the body is a house that is a female, and there is a hidden man of the hearts. There is no more slave because the body is a slave and there is a hidden free man of the heart. God didn't do away with Jew, he made both in one person dude.




Yeah, WHO CARES if you keep the feasts of God, you keep the feasts of devils.


You think just because you don't keep the feasts of our Lord that you can just go out and keep every feast, Sabbaths, tradition and rituals of the God of Babylon?


That what you think? We are not supposed to judge people in whether or not they keep all the laws of all the feasts, this doesn't have ANYTHING TO DO with your conversion to the Babylonian religion where you praise Tammuz by keeping everything that teaches of the Babylonian Messiah.


You are sorely mistaken if you think God will be ok with you keeping every pagan feast under every green tree.
I'm not the one who is clueless. This is the church-age. When a Jew receives Christ as Savior he is not regarded as a Jew. When a Gentile receives Christ as Savior he is not regarded as a Gentile. They are both regarded as Church - a new creation.

Gentiles do not become Israel. You've got your head stuck in the wrong dispensation.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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The Messianic movement is about 80% gentile And ocestrated by the SBC...Their Rabbis aren’t even Yeshiva trainer...They’re ordained by the SBC...
I am talking about Jewish people who believe Yeshua died and resurrected.

And don't get me started on what has been traded already amongst jews, and messianic jews.

In the future, presume I already know and am encouraging others to reach out.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:28 AM
 
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I'm not the one who is clueless. This is the church-age. When a Jew receives Christ as Savior he is not regarded as a Jew. When a Gentile receives Christ as Savior he is not regarded as a Gentile. They are both regarded as Church - a new creation.

Gentiles do not become Israel. You've got your head stuck in the wrong dispensation.

NO Mike, Jews cannot become lawless and Pagan who keep all the traditions and rituals of all the Sabbaths and feasts of Gods that are not gods, just go ahead and stay in your Babylonian lawless religion dude, but what does this have to do with Christ? Are you saying that Christ came to teach you to be a lawless pagan? then you prove Jesus is a false prophet who deserved death.


The idea is to become co-heirs with Jews and guess how this is done? a Gentile marries a Jew, and then do you think that the Gentile turns the Jew into a lawless pagan? Or that you think the religion of Jesus is to convert to the religion of Tammuz in whom you worship at his holy days and feasts?
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:33 AM
 
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Christians can't even be honest with themselves.


Hey Mike, what year was it when the Gentile Christians started keeping the Sabbaths and feasts of pagan Gods? You gonna accuse Jesus, the disciples and Paul for making you a pagan, a lawless pagan?


What year was it when Gentiles went back to their pagan ways when they rejected the ways of Messiah?


See, you can't even be honest.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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I'm not the one who is clueless. This is the church-age. When a Jew receives Christ as Savior he is not regarded as a Jew.

When a Christian repents for his lawlessness and paganism, he is added to Ephraim, NOT JUDAH.


AS Ephraim, he has to strive to become a Jew, there cannot be two kingdoms of Israel Mike. But saying Jesus is not going to get you grafted through the ten lost tribes, YOU have to repent as the prophets SHOW HOW YOU MUST REPENT if you want to become Ephraim. Ephraim comes back as a Gentile just wanting to be a servant to Israel, and he stops the pagan ways that killed the ten lost tribes.


You think the ten lost tribes didn't get killed for Easter and Christmas? THEY DID, and THEY DIED because they accepted the worship system of a false God.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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NO Mike, Jews cannot become lawless and Pagan who keep all the traditions and rituals of all the Sabbaths and feasts of Gods that are not gods, just go ahead and stay in your Babylonian lawless religion dude, but what does this have to do with Christ? Are you saying that Christ came to teach you to be a lawless pagan? then you prove Jesus is a false prophet who deserved death.


The idea is to become co-heirs with Jews and guess how this is done? a Gentile marries a Jew, and then do you think that the Gentile turns the Jew into a lawless pagan? Or that you think the religion of Jesus is to convert to the religion of Tammuz in whom you worship at his holy days and feasts?
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Christians can't even be honest with themselves.


Hey Mike, what year was it when the Gentile Christians started keeping the Sabbaths and feasts of pagan Gods? You gonna accuse Jesus, the disciples and Paul for making you a pagan, a lawless pagan?


What year was it when Gentiles went back to their pagan ways when they rejected the ways of Messiah?


See, you can't even be honest.
If you were honest you would acknowledge that both the Northern Tribes of Israel and the Southern tribes of Judea disobeyed God and worshipped the gods of the nations and came under divine discipline as a result. Hell, Israel even sacrificed their children to Molech by throwing them into fire.

Jews and Church are two different peoples of God. And God has a different program for each. The things pertaining to Judaism have nothing to do with the church-age believer.

And since you have such an aversion to Christmas why don't you convert to Armstrongism? You'd feel right at home.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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When a Christian repents for his lawlessness and paganism, he is added to Ephraim, NOT JUDAH.


AS Ephraim, he has to strive to become a Jew, there cannot be two kingdoms of Israel Mike. But saying Jesus is not going to get you grafted through the ten lost tribes, YOU have to repent as the prophets SHOW HOW YOU MUST REPENT if you want to become Ephraim. Ephraim comes back as a Gentile just wanting to be a servant to Israel, and he stops the pagan ways that killed the ten lost tribes.


You think the ten lost tribes didn't get killed for Easter and Christmas? THEY DID, and THEY DIED because they accepted the worship system of a false God.
Neither Christmas or Easter existed when the 10 northern tribes were taken into captivity in Assyria in 722 BC.

And no, Christians are not added to Israel. You really should learn something about dispensations.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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If you were honest you would acknowledge that both the Northern Tribes of Israel and the Southern tribes of Judea disobeyed God and worshipped the gods of the nations and came under divine discipline as a result. Hell, Israel even sacrificed their children to Molech by throwing them into fire.

Jews and Church are two different peoples of God. And God has a different program for each. The things pertaining to Judaism have nothing to do with the church-age believer.

And since you have such an aversion to Christmas why don't you convert to Armstrongism? You'd feel right at home.
No, you are sitting there making up history because of the CLEAR fact that you don't know the history of the bible because Judah has NEVER been lost, God TOLD us that he wouldn't give up on Judah unless the moon and sun fell out of the sky, you are mixing Israel with Judah and they were two separate people from two separate kingdoms from two separate religions, Judah is Jews, and Israel became Gentiles by their own will, and they became Gentiles because they accepted Christmas and Easter and rejected the ways of God that Judah followed. Hosea 2 shows how a Gentile is added when he converts to the ways of a Jew by MARRYING A JEW.


You are reading things in the New Testament written about the ten lost tribes and then you take their sin and their punishment and you try and place it on the heads of Judah. You may as well speak of the Egyptians and show their sins to put on the heads of Judah. Judah and Israel were two separate people, and seeing how you don't even know the history of the bible, this can be explained to you, but until you read and know the history, you aint gonna get it.


God NEVER gave up on Judah, he gave up on Ephraim, and by doing this, he has offered every gentile in the world to come fill the void of those ten tribes but ONLY IF they join the Jew in God's religion.


All you do is to make claims that you are in a covenant that is only made for Ephraim and Judah and I am not throwing around guess, I am speaking the facts of history, and the fact of what YOU ARE. I can't say exactly what you are, but I can say what you are not, and you are neither Ephraim or Judah.


A New Covenant
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


How in the world do you imagine that you are in the house of Israel or the house of Judah?


YOU ARE NOT.
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