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Old 12-01-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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About 4 minutes in, he made me cry a little.

He had been taught before how he had to be to be deserving. It broke him down to have the chance to know the love of God he always wished he could.

By grace, not works.

It's funny, too, he started off trying to convert a Baptist congregation!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mckI8Xfl8

 
Old 12-01-2018, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why anyone would want to follow the Penal Substitution theory with the clause of Eternal damnation is beyond me.
 
Old 12-02-2018, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Why anyone would want to follow the Penal Substitution theory with the clause of Eternal damnation is beyond me.
Well, that's it, Jerwade, I guess you are going to hell when you pass on.
"He's got the whole world in his hands...."
 
Old 12-02-2018, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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About 4 minutes in, he made me cry a little.

He had been taught before how he had to be to be deserving. It broke him down to have the chance to know the love of God he always wished he could.

By grace, not works.
I've got to admit it was entertaining how little this guy understood about his former religion.
 
Old 12-02-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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About 4 minutes in, he made me cry a little.

He had been taught before how he had to be to be deserving. It broke him down to have the chance to know the love of God he always wished he could.

By grace, not works.

It's funny, too, he started off trying to convert a Baptist congregation!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mckI8Xfl8

PURE GOLD loved every minute of it and one of the most powerful testimonies out there......God has truly blessed his mission......
 
Old 12-02-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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PURE GOLD loved every minute of it and one of the most powerful testimonies out there......God has truly blessed his mission......
It came across as more of an act, after six years, but fundamentalists are gullible.
 
Old 12-02-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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About 4 minutes in, he made me cry a little.

He had been taught before how he had to be to be deserving. It broke him down to have the chance to know the love of God he always wished he could.

By grace, not works.

It's funny, too, he started off trying to convert a Baptist congregation!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0mckI8Xfl8
So you are telling us that MORMON BAD, EX MORMON good?
 
Old 12-02-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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PURE GOLD loved every minute of it and one of the most powerful testimonies out there......God has truly blessed his mission......
or satanic influences just took the guy away from the one true god..
 
Old 12-02-2018, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Mesa AZ
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I am an evangelical Christian and have lived among mormons for 30 years. I have never felt the kind, caring, loving acceptance from them that is common among my Christian brothers of various other denominations. There is an easily recognized level of sanctimonious arrogance that most of them have, that is not what Christianity is about. Much like in places the muslims are the majority they are a dominating force in all that happens in everyday life and politics in Arizona and Utah. The laws are rarely enforced when they do wrong, the local media tiptoes around reporting their misdeeds if they report them at all. I have known a few that have escaped the vice grip of mormonism and it came with severe consequences for most of them. While traveling years ago it was not at all shocking when a man I barely knew was discussing them and he knew I was from Mesa but could easily tell that I was not a mormon. It was a very nice compliment that I had a spirit of openness, kindness and none of the rigid, zombielike arrogance that he could easily spot a mile away.
Many people claim to be Christians but the way you treat your fellow man [especially those different from you] is what really tells who your master really is.

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Old 12-02-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I am an evangelical Christian and have lived among mormons for 30 years. I have never felt the kind, caring, loving acceptance from them that is common among my Christian brothers of various other denominations. There is an easily recognized level of sanctimonious arrogance that most of them have, that is not what Christianity is about. Much like in places the muslims are the majority they are a dominating force in all that happens in everyday life and politics in Arizona and Utah. The laws are rarely enforced when they do wrong, the local media tiptoes around reporting their misdeeds if they report them at all. I have known a few that have escaped the vice grip of mormonism and it came with severe consequences for most of them. While traveling years ago it was not at all shocking when a man I barely knew was discussing them and he knew I was from Mesa but could easily tell that I was not a mormon. It was a very nice compliment that I had a spirit of openness, kindness and none of the rigid, zombielike arrogance that he could easily spot a mile away.
Many people claim to be Christians but the way you treat your fellow man [especially those different from you] is what really tells who your master really is.
Hi, there, Larry! Zombie-Mormon, Katzpur, here. It's nice to hear from a "true Christian." How amazing that it was so easy to tell that you were not one of those sanctimonious, arrogant Mormons, that instead, you were just the kind, open, loving and accepting person you've shown yourself to be by this post! It just goes to show what teaching by example can do.

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