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Israel is always viewed different than any other people or nation, always a double standard which is made very clear at the United Nations, it is just sad. I can't see anyone denying the existance of spirits in relation to Israel, people can talk rationaly about any other nation but when it concerns Israel, all the rules change as if people were possessed by a spirit of hate and injustice. They can't seem to get out of the box to even see the double standards, and instead, they are driven by spirits.
Israel is always viewed different than any other people or nation, always a double standard which is made very clear at the United Nations, it is just sad. I can't see anyone denying the existance of spirits in relation to Israel, people can talk rationaly about any other nation but when it concerns Israel, all the rules change as if people were possessed by a spirit of hate and injustice. They can't seem to get out of the box to even see the double standards, and instead, they are driven by spirits.
According to Revelation 16:13-16, the "kings of all the nations" are driven by "demon spirits".
One million Palestinian Christians live around the world today. And, only 20-25% live in Israel/Palestine today. Roughly 7% of the 13-14 million Palestinians are Christian. America happens to be a Christian majority nation. Why are so many Americans apparently one-sided on the Israel/Palestine issue while they only seem to see Palestinians as Muslims? Not that it should matter anyway. I think it may partly be because America and other predominantly Protestant nations of Europe dominate world affairs and most Middle Eastern Christians are Papal Catholics or Eastern Orthodox/Oriental Orthodox Christians.
The UK, Germany, and several Scandinavian nations are arguably the most developed and influential nations of Europe. The practice of Protestantism and Catholicism have gone down in developed nations over the last 50+ years. But, Cultural Christians still play a large role politically in most Western nations.
A common argument that people seem to use is that Palestinians left the land so they have no right to it now. But, the Jews left the land too and came back. Many people believe Jews have a God given right to Palestine. But, it's highly possible the ancestors of most Palestinians were Jews themselves.
Because there is no country of "Palestine". There IS a country of Israel, though, and God has promised to bless Israel, and those that bless Israel. God gave them the land when Abraham moved into it, and he gave them the land again when they came out of Egypt, and he AGAIN blessed them with the land when they came out of exile from Babylon.
According to Revelation 16:13-16, the "kings of all the nations" are driven by "demon spirits".
Pay no attention, just rambling on trying to find religion.
Revelation is always speaking of you and what you are as Ephraim and Judah. The very first sentence says that everything written in the book must shortly come to pass for the reader and it is showing the death of a Gentile who is progressively walking toward the coming of the Lord in those fall Holy days.
Revelation begins on Tishri 1 on the feast of Trumpets in the house of Trumpets where you are the dead man wrapped in 7 lenin seals as it was done to Jesus. Jesus was the only one whose seals were broken and left in the tomb. These seals have a history that is teaching a transformation using the symbolism of a cocoon, and Revelation is only written to and about the Gentile believer as he stops being a Gentile.
Those 42 months are 42 months Elijah was appointed to go against Ephraim, as Elijah's mission has nothing to do with Jews.
You are two kingdoms just as there are two kingdoms of Israel where one is lawless and one is lawfull and this is also the son who stayed home in Judah and the prodigal nation of Ephraim who willingly called the Torah a strange thing and who willingly became lawless pagan Gentiles so much so that God said to them,'' You are not my people/Gentiles.''
This lawles pagan kingdom of Ephraim became known as the ten lost tribes but Judah has never left God, and Jesus is just telling us the history of God's two sons,'' Ephraim and Judah.''
The people of Ephraim fought against God, against Jerusalem and against Judah because they were desparate to keep separate from Jews, and Ephraim were never Jews.
When Jesus speaks about the fact that Elijah still has to come, he is speaking about the spirit of Elijah and to whom that spirit is given and this spirit cannot be sent to a Jew because it's mission is ONLY TO GENTILES.
Elijah and John the Baptist have the same exact mission, and the 3rd coming of the spirit of Elijah now is, and is always been since Pentecost and Revelation is explaining this spirit to every Gentile who has ever recieved it.
Elijah has nothing to do with Jews, his whole mission was his 42 months against Ephraim because they separated from Jews when the whole point was for them to become one just as the whole point of Gentiles believing in Jesus is their redemption and adoption into Israel.
The spirit of Elijah has no business with a Jew because it's mission is to gather Gentile TO JEWS, it's mission is that a Gentile AGREES to marry a Jew IN ORDER to become one WITH the Jewish people in ONE religion where God has made the impossible, possible. God took ten tribes of Israel and seeded them into all Gentile nations, not only is this bizarre, it came true, it came true that God seeded ten tribes like actual seeds that grew and bore fruit where from across the world a Gentile could claim an inheritance in Israel, and WHO HAS EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING?
The spirit of Elijah is a FRIEND TO THE BRIDEGROOM/JEWS.
The spirit of Elijah went walking in the land of the ten lost tribes to prepare Gentiles for an adoption, they were willing and prepared to give up and reject the worship of any other God but the God of the Jews and those Gentiles began living life as if they were Jews.
The New Testament is showing how it is that a Gentile could become one with Jews SO MUCH SO that it is bold enough to say,'' CO-HEIRS.'' Ephraim IS the Co Heir, if a Gentile hasn't become Ephraim, he is not a co heir, and if he is not one with Jews as the same people, he cannot be Ephraim.
This promise is only given to Ephraim and Judah and when Jesus came, Ephraim had been missing for 700 years and so it was impossible for Messiah to offer a covenant to Ephraim and Judah because of the fact that there was no Ephraim.
The whole mission of Elijah is strictly devoted to Ephraim's 42 months where Elijah runs from certain death, Elijah comes up to God and says,'' Lord I am the only member of the house of Israel who is not a pagan.''
What I would tell you is that you are two kingdoms, one of flesh and one of spirit and there cannot be two kingdoms without continual war because there cannot be two kings, there cannot be two peoples, two nations.
We are living proof that there cannot be Jews and Gentiles, there cannot be a king over the flesh and a king over the spirit at the same time beause the FLESH MUST SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF THE SPIRIT.
Or should the spririt be submissive to the flesh?
As long as you remain two kingdoms it shall be kingdom against kingdom, king against king until you have brought your flesh under submission to the spirit.
You have to willingly die to the king of the flesh, and so instead of forcing your will and desires against the spirit, you die daily, and every day you begin to live as a submissive virgin to the will of the spirit.
'' There is therefore no more Gentile, and no more Jew, there is no more slave and no more free man, there is no more male and female, there is no more barbarian, no more Scythian, thre is no more circumcised and uncircumcised.'''
Is there no more Male and no more female?
Heavens no, but everyone is in a marriage where your flesh is a female that houses the spirit of a male and so we can't say you are either because you are both.
There is no more slaves and no more free men because all are slaves in this body of death under the same covenant as Ishmael, but then there is another son present who is of the seed of Isaac and he is a free man in his own covenant.
Revelation is showing you how to die as the Gentile, as Elijah was appointed to die and to be resurrected with double the power where we are shown a brand new creature in Elisha.
Revelation is showing you how you die, how it is that your head comes off and why it is that you need a new head.
Just saying, it isn't about other nations, it is about what you are and what you have the chance to become, it is showing you in the fall holy days that are appointed for the second coming of Christ in your own lifetime, and believe it or not, those first disciples were always expecting the day of the Lord in their own lives always walking toward symbolic death and what takes place after that death where you are appointed a new head. You have to get beheaded as John was beheaded and as all the souls of all the Gentiles under the throne who were beheaded for Christ.
Their heads were not cut off, the realization is that the spirit of Elijah had come, God gave the person power in the water and in the blood which are the two witness, and this was specifically to show a person that there is an abomination within him and he didn't know it, and that is why God gives the two witnesses power, why?
Because when God gives you power in the soul, BUT ALSO POWER IN THE FLESH OF WATER, you immediatly understand that a door has been opened up and you realize that you were not alone, unfortunately because you know the spirit is in you and speaking, you automatically assume it is a righteous spirit of God and you think you have finally been indwelled with the power of the Holy spirit because it is real and very present.
It is not the Holy spirit, it is your head, your head that needs to come off so you can obtain a new head,'' Jesus.''
Jesus is telling EVERYONE that when they come to the end of the days of their ministry in those 42 months, THAT THEY WILL SEE THE ABOMINATION STANDING WITHIN THE TEMPLE, LET THE READER UNDERSTAND.
You are the temple, the abomination is inside you and you don't know it.
When one finally sees the abomination within themselves, what do they do?
First off, they want you to run up to the mountains of Judah.
It is telling us to seek the wisdom of Jewish thought, wise men of Judah.
Are we supposed to climb up on our rooftops
No, we go into prayer.
Everything Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation is talking about is the two kingdoms you are.
Pay no attention, just rambling on trying to find religion.
Revelation is always speaking of you and what you are as Ephraim and Judah. The very first sentence says that everything written in the book must shortly come to pass for the reader and it is showing the death of a Gentile who is progressively walking toward the coming of the Lord in those fall Holy days.
Revelation begins on Tishri 1 on the feast of Trumpets in the house of Trumpets where you are the dead man wrapped in 7 lenin seals as it was done to Jesus. Jesus was the only one whose seals were broken and left in the tomb. These seals have a history that is teaching a transformation using the symbolism of a cocoon, and Revelation is only written to and about the Gentile believer as he stops being a Gentile.
Those 42 months are 42 months Elijah was appointed to go against Ephraim, as Elijah's mission has nothing to do with Jews.
You are two kingdoms just as there are two kingdoms of Israel where one is lawless and one is lawfull and this is also the son who stayed home in Judah and the prodigal nation of Ephraim who willingly called the Torah a strange thing and who willingly became lawless pagan Gentiles so much so that God said to them,'' You are not my people/Gentiles.''
This lawles pagan kingdom of Ephraim became known as the ten lost tribes but Judah has never left God, and Jesus is just telling us the history of God's two sons,'' Ephraim and Judah.''
The people of Ephraim fought against God, against Jerusalem and against Judah because they were desparate to keep separate from Jews, and Ephraim were never Jews.
When Jesus speaks about the fact that Elijah still has to come, he is speaking about the spirit of Elijah and to whom that spirit is given and this spirit cannot be sent to a Jew because it's mission is ONLY TO GENTILES.
Elijah and John the Baptist have the same exact mission, and the 3rd coming of the spirit of Elijah now is, and is always been since Pentecost and Revelation is explaining this spirit to every Gentile who has ever recieved it.
Elijah has nothing to do with Jews, his whole mission was his 42 months against Ephraim because they separated from Jews when the whole point was for them to become one just as the whole point of Gentiles believing in Jesus is their redemption and adoption into Israel.
The spirit of Elijah has no business with a Jew because it's mission is to gather Gentile TO JEWS, it's mission is that a Gentile AGREES to marry a Jew IN ORDER to become one WITH the Jewish people in ONE religion where God has made the impossible, possible. God took ten tribes of Israel and seeded them into all Gentile nations, not only is this bizarre, it came true, it came true that God seeded ten tribes like actual seeds that grew and bore fruit where from across the world a Gentile could claim an inheritance in Israel, and WHO HAS EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING?
The spirit of Elijah is a FRIEND TO THE BRIDEGROOM/JEWS.
The spirit of Elijah went walking in the land of the ten lost tribes to prepare Gentiles for an adoption, they were willing and prepared to give up and reject the worship of any other God but the God of the Jews and those Gentiles began living life as if they were Jews.
The New Testament is showing how it is that a Gentile could become one with Jews SO MUCH SO that it is bold enough to say,'' CO-HEIRS.'' Ephraim IS the Co Heir, if a Gentile hasn't become Ephraim, he is not a co heir, and if he is not one with Jews as the same people, he cannot be Ephraim.
This promise is only given to Ephraim and Judah and when Jesus came, Ephraim had been missing for 700 years and so it was impossible for Messiah to offer a covenant to Ephraim and Judah because of the fact that there was no Ephraim.
The whole mission of Elijah is strictly devoted to Ephraim's 42 months where Elijah runs from certain death, Elijah comes up to God and says,'' Lord I am the only member of the house of Israel who is not a pagan.''
What I would tell you is that you are two kingdoms, one of flesh and one of spirit and there cannot be two kingdoms without continual war because there cannot be two kings, there cannot be two peoples, two nations.
We are living proof that there cannot be Jews and Gentiles, there cannot be a king over the flesh and a king over the spirit at the same time beause the FLESH MUST SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF THE SPIRIT.
Or should the spririt be submissive to the flesh?
As long as you remain two kingdoms it shall be kingdom against kingdom, king against king until you have brought your flesh under submission to the spirit.
You have to willingly die to the king of the flesh, and so instead of forcing your will and desires against the spirit, you die daily, and every day you begin to live as a submissive virgin to the will of the spirit.
'' There is therefore no more Gentile, and no more Jew, there is no more slave and no more free man, there is no more male and female, there is no more barbarian, no more Scythian, thre is no more circumcised and uncircumcised.'''
Is there no more Male and no more female?
Heavens no, but everyone is in a marriage where your flesh is a female that houses the spirit of a male and so we can't say you are either because you are both.
There is no more slaves and no more free men because all are slaves in this body of death under the same covenant as Ishmael, but then there is another son present who is of the seed of Isaac and he is a free man in his own covenant.
Revelation is showing you how to die as the Gentile, as Elijah was appointed to die and to be resurrected with double the power where we are shown a brand new creature in Elisha.
Revelation is showing you how you die, how it is that your head comes off and why it is that you need a new head.
Just saying, it isn't about other nations, it is about what you are and what you have the chance to become, it is showing you in the fall holy days that are appointed for the second coming of Christ in your own lifetime, and believe it or not, those first disciples were always expecting the day of the Lord in their own lives always walking toward symbolic death and what takes place after that death where you are appointed a new head. You have to get beheaded as John was beheaded and as all the souls of all the Gentiles under the throne who were beheaded for Christ.
Their heads were not cut off, the realization is that the spirit of Elijah had come, God gave the person power in the water and in the blood which are the two witness, and this was specifically to show a person that there is an abomination within him and he didn't know it, and that is why God gives the two witnesses power, why?
Because when God gives you power in the soul, BUT ALSO POWER IN THE FLESH OF WATER, you immediatly understand that a door has been opened up and you realize that you were not alone, unfortunately because you know the spirit is in you and speaking, you automatically assume it is a righteous spirit of God and you think you have finally been indwelled with the power of the Holy spirit because it is real and very present.
It is not the Holy spirit, it is your head, your head that needs to come off so you can obtain a new head,'' Jesus.''
Jesus is telling EVERYONE that when they come to the end of the days of their ministry in those 42 months, THAT THEY WILL SEE THE ABOMINATION STANDING WITHIN THE TEMPLE, LET THE READER UNDERSTAND.
You are the temple, the abomination is inside you and you don't know it.
When one finally sees the abomination within themselves, what do they do?
First off, they want you to run up to the mountains of Judah.
It is telling us to seek the wisdom of Jewish thought, wise men of Judah.
Are we supposed to climb up on our rooftops
No, we go into prayer.
Everything Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation is talking about is the two kingdoms you are.
I originally posted this thread to be about Palestinian Christians being abandoned by the West, which you have demonstrated. And also the role religion plays in that abondonment.
"So kill all the little boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." - (Moses) Numbers 31:17-18
As you can see, this is a very violent verse in the Jewish scripture. I feel violent Jewish scripture clearly plays a role in Palestinian Christians suffering.
By the way, Revelation is about the End Times, as you apparently don't understand it very well.
I originally posted this thread to be about Palestinian Christians being abandoned by the West, which you have demonstrated. And also the role religion plays in that abondonment.
"So kill all the little boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." - (Moses) Numbers 31:17-18
As you can see, this is a very violent verse in the Jewish scripture. I feel violent Jewish scripture clearly plays a role in Palestinian Christians suffering.
By the way, Revelation is about the End Times, as you apparently don't understand it very well.
Yeah, the first verse of Revelation says that everything in the book must shortly come to pass, and the very last thing says the same thing, everything in the book must shotly come to pass and the angel we see in the last chapter was born a Gentile who lived by the prophesies of the book because the book is written for a Gentile to walk in, it isn't about the end of days man, it is prophesy for a Gentile to walk in and fulfill once he begins.
The reason this is hidden from you and others Christians is the fact that you and yours threw out all the knowledge that would have given you understanding because what you are reading aboug is Rosh Hashanah, the ten days to Yom Kippur, Yom Kippur, the 4 days to Sukkot, Sukkot, Hashanah Rabbah and Shemini Atzeret.
Christians threw out any chance of understanding Revelation when they rejected Jesus and his worship system for a Babylonian worship system.
What you are reading in Revelation is of Holy days, of Temple design, of the comings and goings of the Temple, what is said and done by the priests in the Temple and by the congregation during the fall Holy days. You are reading exact quotes and sayings that you don't know becaus you don't know the 7 feasts of Jesus or even the knowledge of the daily sacrifice.
Palestinian Christians have a long past and in recent decades there has been talk about them fading away. They had been sacrificing a lamb on mount Shechem for centuries.
Well those particular Palestinian Christians, I can't speak for them all, but I do have the entire history of all the people whoever lived in the land of Joseph,'' Palestine.''
Everyone who has ever lived there including Christianity has been enemies to Israel, enemies of the law and the prophets, enemies of Jerusalem and the worst sort of liars just like all those Samaritans who were the greatest liars of all and the worst enemy of Israel. When Jesus met that woman at the well, she was lying through her teeth saying and doing the same thing Christians do when they make false claims about being the,'' New Israel.''
I know that everyone who ever lived next to Judah hated Jews and allied with the enemies of Jews, and they are always claiming to be the one and only true Jews.
Palestinain Christian suffering?
And it's the west who are making them suffer? LOL.
The West is doing it all huh?
The West seems to be the only people who do care, is there some other country pretending to give a damn about Palestinians except the west?
The day that Israel became a nation in 48 was the same day the war began, and this with the same exact people that Moses fought first in the first Exodus.
The league of nations gave the Jews all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates and they have continously given up all the land the world gave tnem for peace until they sit on a tiny little stretch of land and it still isn't good enough, the only thing that will satisfy all their neighbors is nothing shot of Genocide.
All those Muslim countries, how much aid to they give compared to the west? All those Muslim countries don't want Palestine to get aid, they have always been guilty of trying to make them as martyers because of their hatred for Jews.
But why choose Palestinain Christians?
What about Iraqi Christians or Egyptian Christians which by the way, none have anything to do with the covenant Jesus brought for Ephraim and Judah.
God did not choose the laws, Israel did, and God tells us this and shows us this over and over but to somebody who doesn't know the law, they don't have a clue, God never wanted their sacrifices, it is what they chose, THEY didn't choose God, they committed adultery against God and chose their own ways, and God simply gave them the laws concerning their decision.....God was about to transform the entire nation and there would not have been a temple, and neither would there be the same law. What Moses brought down the first time was completely different than what he later came down with.
They chose the work of their own hands, it was their choice.
I'm a Christian. And if we look past the propaganda, the tale of the Palestinians is really an outrageous one. The narrative that the Jews just wanted to settle in Palestine, only to be beset by bloodthirsty Arabs is a false one.
Palestinians lived on that land for centuries, minding their own business, only to be told by the British and the French that it was now a Jewish homeland. Things accelerated after World War II until, over time, their land was stolen and they were herded into enclaves based on a rather dubious historical claim by the Zionist movement. And lest you offer up the kneejerk opinion that I'm an anti-Semite simpy because I point out the injustice of it, there are plenty of Jews who also oppose Israel's policies. https://www.opendemocracy.net/transf...ntizionist-jew
What's more, it's not even a struggle of Judaism against Islam. A substantial number of Palestinians are Christian, practicing their faith on the very lands where Christ preached two thousand years ago.
I do not espouse violence of any kind. But if you actually read an objective history of what happened over the past 100 years in Palestine, rather that simply swallow whatever comes out of some propaganda mill somewhere, you'd realize why the terrorist organizations exist in the first place.
Yes, indeed. It's astonishing what the powers that be do in the name of God. So much deception has been done by Satan's evil empire down through the ages and all over the whole globe. No one can choose a side. That's the problem with the war against humanity is that everyone dies and war crimes go unpunished. God will not let this injustice stand forever.
A hard saying, especially for those who are comfortable and rich is this:
Those who love their own life will lose it; those who hate their own life in this world will keep it for life eternal. - John 12:25 GNB
It is not natural for us to hate our lives in this present world. It is not natural to desire death. But hell on earth pushes people to this place of wanting to leave the earth. I am sure many have longed for death who were under constant assault by the powerful nations making war for decade upon decade, all for the money. I can't think of anything more shameful than that of making wars for profit. But that is what the powers that be are doing since the day I was born. I will not lie to myself and turn my eyes away from the this sad truth.
According to Revelation 16:13-16, the "kings of all the nations" are driven by "demon spirits".
That's right. That is why we cannot choose a side in Satan's war against humanity because everyone is a target of his hatred.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. - Ephesians 6:12
That's right. That is why we cannot choose a side in Satan's war against humanity because everyone is a target of his hatred.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. - Ephesians 6:12
Tell me, how can there be "spiritual forces of evil" in Heaven? Isn't Heaven supposed to be joining with God? Help me understand this idea of "spiritual forces of evil" in Heaven.
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