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Old 06-16-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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I. . . am a God who exacts exclusive devotion having no other gods against my face Ex 20:2,5

Are Christians under that law?
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A dictator also demands exclusive devotion as a ruler.
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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You said you fulfill the law by love. But then you said you didn't. That's because no one can perfectly live the Law. It only serves as a schoolmaster to show our failings. The man who tries to please God by the Law only comes up short, and is not righteous by it.

That is why Christ died on the cross, to pay the penalty for our sins. He fulfilled the Law where we couldn't, and he was righteous where we couldn't be. He gives us that righteousness if we trust in him.
Christ can not die. Jesus physically died. Paul said Agape fulfills the Law because the purpose of the Law giving was changing Cain consciousness into higher types. We are in constant adjustments of our consciousness., as God designed it to happen. Christ Jesus stated in Matt. 5:20 consciousness change required.
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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You said you fulfill the law by love. But then you said you didn't. That's because no one can perfectly live the Law. It only serves as a schoolmaster to show our failings. The man who tries to please God by the Law only comes up short, and is not righteous by it.

That is why Christ died on the cross, to pay the penalty for our sins. He fulfilled the Law where we couldn't, and he was righteous where we couldn't be. He gives us that righteousness if we trust in him.
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:39 AM
 
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God said that Wants Mercy first. Mercy resides in our consciousness. Worship part is only not to side track off instructions of Mercy.
Would you say practicing mercy would be a part of that Sacred service to God sir?
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:40 AM
 
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Romans 10:4 Jesus is the end of the Law for righteousness for those that believe. Jesus fulfilled the Law. We are not bound by it for salvation.

Having said that, it does reveal the truth that he is the only true God, and we are to worship no other God but him. No Christian would WANT to blaspheme God by worshiping a false God.

I am a bit confused by your post sir, who is "he"?
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:54 AM
 
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Has God changed?

That which does not evolve, dies.
Yet the Bible says otherwise: (Malachi 3:6) . . .“For I am Jehovah; I do not change. . .
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:56 AM
 
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A dictator also demands exclusive devotion as a ruler.
Yes sir that is true in many cases, so each of us make a choice; which God will we serve? If one places a human above Jehovah, can he expect Jehovah to accept what he does offer Him?
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Old 06-17-2020, 06:06 AM
 
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Yes sir that is true in many cases, so each of us make a choice; which God will we serve? If one places a human above Jehovah, can he expect Jehovah to accept what he does offer Him?
A dictator doesn't demand devotion. A dictator demands allegiance, or at least the pretense of allegiance.

A dictator is concerned about retaining power, about being overthrown. These are not concerns for God.

Since there is no other God (at least in Christian theology), no analogy to a worldly ruler makes sense. God's commands are for our benefit, not his.

The OT command cited in the OP is really nothing more than a statement of fact. Since there is no other God, of course this "command" still applies. The "command" is saying nothing more than "You shall worship the one true God and not follow demons, false gods or idols."

The "command" is carried forward in Luke 10:25-28 (ESV) where Jesus says:
25 And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How do you read it?” 27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” 28 And he said to him, “You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live.”
No, God hasn't changed.
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Old 06-17-2020, 08:32 AM
 
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A dictator doesn't demand devotion. A dictator demands allegiance, or at least the pretense of allegiance.

A dictator is concerned about retaining power, about being overthrown. These are not concerns for God.

Since there is no other God (at least in Christian theology), no analogy to a worldly ruler makes sense. God's commands are for our benefit, not his.

The OT command cited in the OP is really nothing more than a statement of fact. Since there is no other God, of course this "command" still applies. The "command" is saying nothing more than "You shall worship the one true God and not follow demons, false gods or idols."

The "command" is carried forward in Luke 10:25-28 (ESV) where Jesus says:
25 And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How do you read it?” 27 And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” 28 And he said to him, “You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live.”
No, God hasn't changed.
God made a goal, transformation of human consciousness, from Cain's to brotherly love and beyond. God chose a vehicle - Abraham, God gave a set of rules - the Law, if one follows the Law in the Book, gradually transformation of bicameral minds occur. Deviation from the rule would mean different type of mind would set. That is why God described as dictator, that what bicameral mind understands. Until due time.
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Old 06-17-2020, 08:49 AM
 
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I am a bit confused by your post sir, who is "he"?
He is the Godhead. Are you fairly new to Christianity? If so, welcome !
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