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Old 12-04-2020, 09:31 PM
 
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No nuking you say: Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so.
Armageddon involves the whole world. The whole world does Not surround Jerusalem.
We will have to wait and see if the scourge you mentioned at Zech 14:12 is literal of figurative. ( No nuking mentioned )
( just a thought: what if the scourge is a pestilence like an advanced form of Covid-19 affecting eyes and flesh )
For a certain, enemies are moving to make their global attack.
Their attach goal will be blurred and they will turn one on the another.- Jeremiah 25:31-33 - fratricide.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth is the 'sword' that will rid the Earth of the wicked as per Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-16
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Old 12-05-2020, 12:07 AM
 
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Armageddon involves the whole world. The whole world does Not surround Jerusalem.
We will have to wait and see if the scourge you mentioned at Zech 14:12 is literal of figurative. ( No nuking mentioned )
( just a thought: what if the scourge is a pestilence like an advanced form of Covid-19 affecting eyes and flesh )
For a certain, enemies are moving to make their global attack.
Their attach goal will be blurred and they will turn one on the another.- Jeremiah 25:31-33 - fratricide.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth is the 'sword' that will rid the Earth of the wicked as per Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-16
Well we wouldn't expect a prophet of over 2500 years ago, to know anything about Nuclear weapons, but the prophet did see the enemies of the land of Judah with the flesh rotting on their bones while they were still standing on their feet, and their soft tissues such as eyes and tongues dissolving in their sockets, which is pretty descriptive of the effects of nuclear radiation on animal flesh.

Numbers 24: “The message of Balaam son of Beor, The words of the man who can see clearly, Who can hear what God is saying And receive the knowledge that comes from the Most High.

With staring eyes I see in a trance A vision from Almighty God. I look into the future, And I see the nation of Israel.

A king, like a bright star, will arise in that nation. Like a comet he will come from Israel. He will strike the leaders of Moab And beat down all the people of Seth. He will conquer his enemies in Edom And make their land his property, While Israel continues victorious.

The nation of Israel will trample them down And wipe out the last survivors.”

The executional words of the Lord, will be 'ATTACK."

Look to the Temple which is described by Ezekiel, the temple that is filled with the dazzling light of the Lord. And the Levite priests, the descendants of Zadok, who are to minister to the Lord.

See Ezekiel 44: 16-19; They alone will enter my Temple, serve at my altar, and conduct the temple worship. 17When they enter the gateway to the inner courtyard of the Temple, they are to put on linen clothing. They must not wear anything made of wool when they are on duty in the inner courtyard or in the Temple. 18So that they won't perspire, they are to wear linen turbans and linen trousers, but no belt. 19Before they go to the outer courtyard where the people are, they must first take off the clothes they wore on duty in the Temple and leave them in the holy rooms. They are to put on other clothing in order to keep their sacred clothing from harming/contaminating the people.

All of the prophets speak of the salvation of the land of Israel, as warned by Jesus, when you see the armies camped around Jerusalem.
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Old 12-05-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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Since Jesus never said anything about armageddon, there's no reason to be following those extraneous writings (fantasies) from whomever wrote that. John? Billy? Franz? LOL The pure craziness of "Revelation" indicts itself. Move on.

Jesus said, Thy Kingdom come. Just what do you think he was talking about sir? In fact it was the main message he came to proclaim Luke 4:43
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Old 12-05-2020, 06:06 AM
 
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The "battle" of Armageddon (Rev. 16:16, Rev. 19:17-21) is not really a battle, but, rather a "gathering of the wicked for a final slaughter." Concurrent with Christ’s return, the “gathering” of Armageddon will take place in Israel, in the Valley of Megiddo. The demons will GATHER the kings of the earth (Rev 16:14). On the way, an angel GATHERS the “vultures” to eat the flesh of kings, generals and mighty men.

At the same time, God’s angels will gather Christ’s army of saints from the four corners of heaven (Mat 24:31). The destruction of evil is never in doubt and the only thing the Earthly gathering at Megiddo ensures is that NO evil escapes or anonymously blend into a crowd, like ‘terrorists’ today.

Satan is already a defeated enemy. The Antichrist and false prophet will immediately be captured and thrown into the lake of fire; the rich and powerful “kings and armies” of this world will quickly be slaughtered by the sword of God’s Word and the vultures will gorge on their flesh. None will be spared and None of God’s heavenly army will be touched. (Rev 19:19-20)

In heaven, Satan sought to “rise-up higher than God (Is. 14). His demonic intent may be to stand against God at Armageddon. But, as with the Tower of Babel, this is only an arrogant, sinful dream. No one can STAND against (or in the presence of) GOD!

Scripture refers to this ‘gathering’ at Armageddon by several names: The Great Supper of God (Rev. 19:17), Valley of Jehoshaphat*(Joel 3:2), Valley of Decision*(Joel 3: 13-14); The Battle of Armageddon and the Battle of the Great Day of God Almighty*(Revelation 16:14).



No sir, it will remove all the Kingdoms of the world Dan 2:44. Right now satan is gatherings all the kings of the world for this battle, that will not be fought in a small geographic region, rather earth wide.
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Old 12-05-2020, 06:08 AM
 
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Yes, option C.

Would be silly anyway for a battle to be personified as a 'friend' or 'foe'.



Christians would obviously be friends of it sir, since all of us pray for it. Enemies or foes obviously wouldn't want it to come.
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Old 12-05-2020, 06:10 AM
 
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The Battle of Armageddon is a battle of ALL the Nations of the world will stand up to the nation were the mountain of Megiddo south of Jerusalem.......... And God will nuke or destroy all the armies in the battle ..... Like American will have troops in the battlefield who will be destroyed ..... This is not the war with antichrist which will come at the end of this dispensation, but Armageddon will be a warning sign to the world from God



There is no antichirst sir, as we can see they were here and had a great deal to do with ushering in the apostasy, but the foretold apostasy ended when the last days started.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:24 AM
 
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Jesus said, Thy Kingdom come. Just what do you think he was talking about sir? In fact it was the main message he came to proclaim Luke 4:43
You should search within, instead of looking for a sign?
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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Some people will believe anything.

Likening some Christians to sheep is certainly apt.
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Old 12-05-2020, 01:57 PM
 
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Some people will believe anything.

Likening some Christians to sheep is certainly apt.
And likening the division on the left of 'The Son of Man' as 'GOATS' is certainly apt.
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Old 12-05-2020, 02:26 PM
 
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Default The battle of Armageddon, friend or foe?

I have enormous difficulty in associating war with God. I have no difficulty at all associating war with humanity. The idea that God would use war for any purpose whatsoever is anathema to me given my experiences. The idea that we perverse and flawed humans would trigger a nuclear apocalypse is disturbingly likely given our demonstrated propensities from the past. Biological devastation from created bioweapons is an equally likely possibility. But any idea that God would be in any way instigating it for some incomprehensible reason is beyond belief.
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