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1Cr 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak [this] to your shame.
Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
1Jo 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
We are called to not sin, and we are given the way of repentance if we do. We are not to continue in the mindset that we can sin and repent. We are to overcome sin, and few will do this, and their reward will be Life everlasting.
I understand where you're coming from with your question. I really do. But, based on what I wrote, it's not quite a fair question because I didn't say anything about being good or not being good enough. Romans 3:12 says, "There is none who does good, no, not one.” To quote from the transcript:
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To walk in the darkness, is to live a life... to have characteristics in your life and works in your life that totally contradict everything we know about the person of God. And it's to live a style of life that contradicts everything God has ever said about what He desires of you! That's the difference between walking in the light and walking in the darkness. And what we're talking about here is lifestyle. You're going to see a style of life that, although it is intermittent with sin, it is not habitual sin!
The key word is "lifestyle." Yes, sin will still occur in a Christian's life, but it should be intermittent, not ongoing and habitual. A Christian should be living a lifestyle of obedience and being in relationship with Christ by reading the Word daily, staying in prayer and repenting of the sins they do commit. I will add that these things are part of the good fruit of the works that we do. They are not what "saves" us because then we could boast about being saved by our own works. Salvation is not a matter of good works. It's a free gift. But, those good works are a natural result of our salvation. If you look at 1 John, it's a series of tests for us to examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith. And, as it says in 2 Corinthians 13:5, "Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you-- unless indeed you fail the test?" Thus, as I said, it comes down to a Lifestyle of Obedience.
I think we all, me included, need to be careful to not read into what people are really saying in their posts. I've seen many posts where it seems someone reads a post and either jumps to an extreme of what's really being said or they'll read too quickly and jump to an incorrect assumption of what's being said. I include myself in this assessment and I will pay more attention to it, too.
I think God knows we are but dust. We can't be perfect in this life. We run the race, persevere, sin, repent and sin some more. Maybe with the sinning comes the understanding that we can do nothing apart from God. It draws us closer to Him because he is the Potter and we are the clay. I want to be used, available, open, humble, waiting and doing my best to continue to turn my 'old nature of a will' over to him. God says our good works are as filthy rags. He wants our heart yielded to him as much of the time as we can. We learn though the hard times and he prunes us if we don't produce fruit but we are pruned even if we are doing well so that we can produce even better fruit.
To me it comes down to loving God with all my heart and my neighbor as myself.
I think God knows we are but dust. We can't be perfect in this life. We run the race, persevere, sin, repent and sin some more. Maybe with the sinning comes the understanding that we can do nothing apart from God. It draws us closer to Him because he is the Potter and we are the clay. I want to be used, available, open, humble, waiting and doing my best to continue to turn my 'old nature of a will' over to him. God says our good works are as filthy rags. He wants our heart yielded to him as much of the time as we can. We learn though the hard times and he prunes us if we don't produce fruit but we are pruned even if we are doing well so that we can produce even better fruit.
To me it comes down to loving God with all my heart and my neighbor as myself.
Jesus told us to do something that is not possible?
I think He said to you who can believe, All things are possible.
The try doctrine is nowhere to be found in the scriptures.
I think God knows we are but dust. We can't be perfect in this life. We run the race, persevere, sin, repent and sin some more. Maybe with the sinning comes the understanding that we can do nothing apart from God. It draws us closer to Him because he is the Potter and we are the clay.
With respect, sister, I ask that you read what you wrote again and compare it to the follow passage of scripture.
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Romans 6
Dead to Sin, Alive to God
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
The Bible says that in our new life in Christ, we can be free from sin. If the Bible says it, it's true because we know the Bible is inerrant and true. We have already sinned, so we cannot die sinlessly. But we can live the rest of our lives without sin. This passage tells us that. We, myself especially, just haven't gotten to that point yet. But, we are to persevere to "be ye holy, just as I am holy."
Jesus said we could. In fact it is a command, thou few will take Him up on it.
Scripture says we are to not live in constant repentance.
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We are told to go unto perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works...
How can you say that we can't or shouldn't be perfect? Jesus taught it. On many occasions.
godspeed,
freedom
Freedom, NO ONE who is a human being will ever attain perfection in this life. Yes, we are to repent of our sins, because every one of us sins every single day of our lives. Are you telling me you have attained perfection? Get real. That's like you're saying you ARE Jesus.
The only perfect person to ever walk this earth in human form WAS Jesus. That's what the Bible says. We are to strive to live like He lived and live how He taught, not pretend we are Him.
We ALL sin, we are ALL imperfect and will remain to be so until we go to heaven. Jesus' teachings are a guideline for us to follow.....if we were in fact able to achieve perfection, then why would we even need guidelines?
Freedom, NO ONE who is a human being will ever attain perfection in this life. Yes, we are to repent of our sins, because every one of us sins every single day of our lives. Are you telling me you have attained perfection? Get real. That's like you're saying you ARE Jesus.
The only perfect person to ever walk this earth in human form WAS Jesus. That's what the Bible says. We are to strive to live like He lived and live how He taught, not pretend we are Him.
We ALL sin, we are ALL imperfect and will remain to be so until we go to heaven. Jesus' teachings are a guideline for us to follow.....if we were in fact able to achieve perfection, then why would we even need guidelines?
ALL haved sinned and fallen short, ALL.
Dotl,
I didn't say that mankind hasn't sinned or doesn't sin. I am saying that we can overcome sin.
There are plenty of people that have overcome sin, and in doing so, they would never boast and say that they have, they would let their light so shine that others seeing their good works would glorify the Father.
Christ truly died in vain if we can not follow His example and live according to the promises of victory. We are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus.
"BE ye therefore perfect even as our Father in Heaven is perfect.
Therefore, leaving the principles and doctrines of Jesus Christ, Go unto perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance and faith toward God.
Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
There are no less than 42 verses that call us to be perfect and 8 that teach regarding perfection.
With God all things are possible.
If we are to be Like Christ, we need to be open to receiving a fullness of the Father, in the now. Not in the far off.
Jesus would never give a command and not prepare the way for its fullfillment.
1 John 1.8 through 10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. (NIV)
1 John 1.8 through 10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. (NIV)
Absolutely,
Perfection does not boast, would never say it is without sin, as Jesus never did, the futher He went with it, was....which of you convinceth me to sin.
He will forgive us our sins, and we are to leave (grow beyond) the foundation of repentance.
If we say we love Him and do not keep His commandments, we are liars.
Jesus said, the things that I do, Ye shall do and more...
godspeed,
freedom
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