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I dont want to sound cold but the only thing you need to "repent" from is reading the epistles.
Your marriage didnt work out like countless marriages . You did nothing wrong UNLIKE many of the so called Family value preachers who wind up fooling around with kids and hookers.
You start dating and enjoy yourself. You did NOTHING wrong the marriage didn't work out thats the real world and life goes on.
I can appreciate where you are coming from, but in the same breath I have to tell you I did do wrong. I was living in my old nature, unhappy and looked for a way out. I committed adultery. I was young (21) and married to a GI who was a very "religious" person, now I realize that he practiced religion but did not have a relationship with the lord. He was also very OT an extremist by any other name. When that failed I married again to another GI who was the exact opposite, a non believer. I wont go as far to say atheist, but pretty close. He and I had a child together. I was faithful to him, learning from my first marriage but by the time I was 25 I now was in a extreme situation as he came home from the war and became abusive toward myself and the children. I will go as far to say sexually abusive as well, and not only with myself.... By the time I was 27 I had been married and divorced twice and had 3 children. I did manage to get and education in that time, but if you read my other thread ( God as my provider) I am not putting that education to work.
I will now only serve God and do what His will is for my life. It took several years and many mistakes, but He pursued me, and now I am His to do as He pleases! With the hope that he will see past my sin, and worthy of a spouse.... a third time~ God Bless, mandy
This is from another forum and a member here - I am not divorced and hence have no opinion on this. This IMO was a good post and links.
Does God Hate Divorce?
Of course, marriages are intended to be lifelong. But even God has been through a divorce. That's right, check it out in Jeremiah 3:8 "Lo I had put her out and given her a certificate of divorce"...He is speaking of Israel.
The widely used verse in Malachi, where God seems to state that He "hates divorce", is mistranslated. What God hates is literally "the putting out" of a woman.
Putting out is altogether different than divorce in Jewish culture. A man would permanently kick his wife out, denying her the Jewish divorce certificate. This woman would still be legally married, but with no home. Her dowry and children would be retained by the husband. She would have already surrendered her virginity to him. She would be ineligible to remarry, since technically, she was still legally bound to her husband. Further, her culture would label her as an adulteress since she did not have a valid divorce certificate. And this lady couldn't just rent an apartment and get a job teaching kindergarten - there was no place for a put out woman in Jewish culture of that day except prostitution. Since the marriages were most often arranged, this whole horrible chain of events would have been completely out of her control.....
Read on here (http://www.rockymountainministries.org/Articles/ChristianityAndDivorce/godhatesdivorce.html - broken link)
Is Remarriage Adultery?
In Jewish culture, remarriage was not considered adultery for a man, in fact many men had multiple wives. Remarriage was not considered adultery for a woman unless she did not have a valid divorce certificate. Jesus said that if a man "put out" a woman, i.e. without a divorce certificate, he would be forcing her into adultery since few people could endure lifelong forced singlehood. Also, there were really no cultural options for a "put out" woman except prostitution. If another man married such a woman then he would be considered adulterous since she was still technically married to her first husband. Jesus was exposing the cruelty of the misuse of their system. (Please read the article, "Does God Really Hate Divorce" for a more complete explanation of "putting away" in Jewish culture.
Jesus was also implying that if a country enacts a law, that law may or may not be in agreement with God. Just because someone followed a written law did not absolve them from sin in God's eyes if the law was unethical or was used in an unethical manner.....
Read on here (http://www.rockymountainministries.org/Articles/ChristianityAndDivorce/remarriageadultery.html - broken link)
This is from another forum and a member here - I am not divorced and hence have no opinion on this. This IMO was a good post and links.
Does God Hate Divorce?
Of course, marriages are intended to be lifelong. But even God has been through a divorce. That's right, check it out in Jeremiah 3:8 "Lo I had put her out and given her a certificate of divorce"...He is speaking of Israel.
The widely used verse in Malachi, where God seems to state that He "hates divorce", is mistranslated. What God hates is literally "the putting out" of a woman.
Putting out is altogether different than divorce in Jewish culture. A man would permanently kick his wife out, denying her the Jewish divorce certificate. This woman would still be legally married, but with no home. Her dowry and children would be retained by the husband. She would have already surrendered her virginity to him. She would be ineligible to remarry, since technically, she was still legally bound to her husband. Further, her culture would label her as an adulteress since she did not have a valid divorce certificate. And this lady couldn't just rent an apartment and get a job teaching kindergarten - there was no place for a put out woman in Jewish culture of that day except prostitution. Since the marriages were most often arranged, this whole horrible chain of events would have been completely out of her control.....
Read on here (http://www.rockymountainministries.org/Articles/ChristianityAndDivorce/godhatesdivorce.html - broken link)
Is Remarriage Adultery?
In Jewish culture, remarriage was not considered adultery for a man, in fact many men had multiple wives. Remarriage was not considered adultery for a woman unless she did not have a valid divorce certificate. Jesus said that if a man "put out" a woman, i.e. without a divorce certificate, he would be forcing her into adultery since few people could endure lifelong forced singlehood. Also, there were really no cultural options for a "put out" woman except prostitution. If another man married such a woman then he would be considered adulterous since she was still technically married to her first husband. Jesus was exposing the cruelty of the misuse of their system. (Please read the article, "Does God Really Hate Divorce" for a more complete explanation of "putting away" in Jewish culture.
Jesus was also implying that if a country enacts a law, that law may or may not be in agreement with God. Just because someone followed a written law did not absolve them from sin in God's eyes if the law was unethical or was used in an unethical manner.....
Read on here (http://www.rockymountainministries.org/Articles/ChristianityAndDivorce/remarriageadultery.html - broken link)
Blessings
except i am not jewish, I am Christian, and I don't understand how that would be of and relation to me being that I have a "letter of divorcement" rather I gave 2 letters out, but thats apples and oranges. and I am sure I have read again, don't quote me, it late and I haven't been sleeping well, somewhere the bible references the legal divorce and how "she" would be considered an adulteress..... need to go to bed, night all!
Justification is not the best way to go about life.
If she is truly desiring to follow God. Then He will say if and when.
godspeed,
freedom
Sweet, so if we follow a different religion than the specific one you practice then we are merely justifying our errors. It takes a large amount of hubris to claim that god is not working through other religions via cultural adaptations etc.
Do you go to confessional? No? Whoops, sorry you are doomed.
Have you performed the Hajj? Whoops, sorry you are doomed.
You seem to hold a lot of answers for a mortal...but wait God talks to YOU and not the other people that claim the same.
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself comes to mind but I'm guessing you have *justified* your way around this one because it's OK when you do it because you KNOW you are right.
Sweet, so if we follow a different religion than the specific one you practice then we are merely justifying our errors. It takes a large amount of hubris to claim that god is not working through other religions via cultural adaptations etc.
I don't follow a specific religion, ie Catholic, Evangelical, Methodist, Baptist, Muslim etc.... You are jumping to conclusions.
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Do you go to confessional? No? Whoops, sorry you are doomed.
Have you performed the Hajj? Whoops, sorry you are doomed.
I do go within and confess my sins to God. Non muslims are not allowed to partake of the Hajj.
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You seem to hold a lot of answers for a mortal...but wait God talks to YOU and not the other people that claim the same.
No one has a monopoly on God, if you ask, you will receive, that is His promise to all of us, regardless of what we profess or know. He leads us into all truth, if i know anything, it is because i've asked.
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Judge not lest ye be judged yourself comes to mind but I'm guessing you have *justified* your way around this one because it's OK when you do it because you KNOW you are right.
Sweet, so if we follow a different religion than the specific one you practice then we are merely justifying our errors. It takes a large amount of hubris to claim that god is not working through other religions via cultural adaptations etc.
Do you go to confessional? No? Whoops, sorry you are doomed.
Have you performed the Hajj? Whoops, sorry you are doomed.
You seem to hold a lot of answers for a mortal...but wait God talks to YOU and not the other people that claim the same.
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself comes to mind but I'm guessing you have *justified* your way around this one because it's OK when you do it because you KNOW you are right.
You strike me as quite hypocritical.
Freedom hears little voices alright but:
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Malachi 3:6 For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Malachi 2:13-17 And this is the second thing you do: You cover the altar of the LORD with tears, With weeping and crying; So He does not regard the offering anymore, Nor receive [it] with goodwill from your hands. Yet you say, "For what reason?" Because the LORD has been witness Between you and the wife of your youth, With whom you have dealt treacherously; Yet she is your companion And your wife by covenant. But did He not make [them] one, Having a remnant of the Spirit? And why one? He seeks godly offspring. Therefore take heed to your spirit, And let none deal treacherously with the wife of his youth. "For the LORD God of Israel says That He hates divorce, For it covers one's garment with violence," Says the LORD of hosts. "Therefore take heed to your spirit, That you do not deal treacherously." You have wearied the LORD with your words; Yet you say, "In what way have we wearied [Him?"] In that you say, "Everyone who does evil [Is] good in the sight of the LORD, And He delights in them," Or, "Where [is] the God of justice?"
1 Cor 7:11 But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to [her] husband. And a husband is not to divorce [his] wife.
Mark 10:12 "And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."
Romans 7:3 So then if, while [her] husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.
I can appreciate where you are coming from, but in the same breath I have to tell you I did do wrong. I was living in my old nature, unhappy and looked for a way out. I committed adultery. I was young (21) and married to a GI who was a very "religious" person, now I realize that he practiced religion but did not have a relationship with the lord. He was also very OT an extremist by any other name. When that failed I married again to another GI who was the exact opposite, a non believer. I wont go as far to say atheist, but pretty close. He and I had a child together. I was faithful to him, learning from my first marriage but by the time I was 25 I now was in a extreme situation as he came home from the war and became abusive toward myself and the children. I will go as far to say sexually abusive as well, and not only with myself.... By the time I was 27 I had been married and divorced twice and had 3 children. I did manage to get and education in that time, but if you read my other thread ( God as my provider) I am not putting that education to work.
I will now only serve God and do what His will is for my life. It took several years and many mistakes, but He pursued me, and now I am His to do as He pleases! With the hope that he will see past my sin, and worthy of a spouse.... a third time~ God Bless, mandy
That's a relatively sad bit of info there Mandy. Sorry to hear. My concern is that if you should ever decide to get married again, you might hamstring the relationship with this fear that if anything goes wrong or it does not work out, you will conclude that it is because you somehow disobeyed God. In fact, I feel that is part of the fear you have now so it becomes a circle of frustration.
And this "marry God" business is so silly to me. If people are just honest with themselves, they KNOW God cannot satisfy sexual urges and the thought of it is even repulsive to some. A woman needs a man and a man needs a woman to satisfy their needs, no other way around it.
And this "marry God" business is so silly to me. If people are just honest with themselves, they KNOW God cannot satisfy sexual urges and the thought of it is even repulsive to some. A woman needs a man and a man needs a woman to satisfy their needs, no other way around it.
He may not satisfy them, but He surely can take them away. There are millions of people that live celibate lives in this world, its not only possible, its happening as we type....
godspeed,
freedom
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well said, .....
Adultery Malachi
