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Old 08-03-2008, 08:35 PM
 
Location: In bucolic TN
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Along with abortion, what I've struggled with is the birth of a child unloved. To grow up in poverty, into abuse, or into neglect, is a shameful, horrendous tragedy. I've dealt with the rag-tag remains of those who are living, and some would say, 'but so what, they are still alive to complain,' but I guess I wonder about quality of life too, and how for some, it is absent. Then again, we who are in America truly have little to complain about. Three squares and property, we make out better than 3/4's of the world.

Ecclesiastes 4: 2-3
"And I declared that the dead who had already died are happier than the living who are still alive.
But better than both is the one who has not yet been, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun."

and Ecclesiastes 12:14:

"For G-d will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing whether it is good or evil."

I'm pro-choice, but I also think I've killed many with hatred, anger, and disunity. Death is no longer relative, but how few more I can afford.
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:38 PM
 
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No, abortion is not a sin. That is the greatest option is a woman accidentally gets pregnant, a child she doesn't want.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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No, abortion is not a sin. That is the greatest option is a woman accidentally gets pregnant, a child she doesn't want.
The "greatest option" sounds selfish....


godspeed,

freedom
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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"Is abortion a sin?"

Sin: to miss the mark (ie: archery term 'miss the target')

The target would be to do what God created you to do - be human.

Killing is natural, but it isn't the human thing to do (being human is super-natural).

Some mothers would gladly die to allow their offspring to live. This is human. Some would rather save themselves. This is natural.

I don't think we can force someone to give their their life in exchange for someone elses. It's a voluntary thing.

Rape or incest? The person born may be just the person you and those around you wanted or needed, the greatest thing that ever happened to you. Why take a chance on destroying that? Not intelligent.

Simply unwanted? Too late. If your that shallow there are plenty who aren't that would love to have your baby.
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Well, I was having a debate with two of my closest friends, John and Stephanie at Starbucks. I asked my friends about why there are some many people that are against abortions. John told me that is a sin and states its like murdering a person, as did Stephanie.

What if the mother was raped and her life was endangered? Would it still be a sin if she engaged in getting an abortion?

Thanks in advanced.
No, abortion is a choice not a sin.
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Stanwood, Washington
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Easy.

David sang to God about how God knew David before his mother even knew she was pregnant. That's awful early.

God said not to kill.

If someone is known, they are obviously a person, and someone kills another person, logic provides the answer to your question.
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Easy.

David sang to God about how God knew David before his mother even knew she was pregnant. That's awful early.

God said not to kill.

If someone is known, they are obviously a person, and someone kills another person, logic provides the answer to your question.
Not only David, everyone that has ever been.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:27 PM
 
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The idea of children growing up unloved is abhorrent. However, how is it morally superior to kill those who are potentially unloved in utero rather than just killing those who are actually grown, actually unloved, and are living unhappy lives?
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:47 PM
 
Location: California
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The idea of children growing up unloved is abhorrent. However, how is it morally superior to kill those who are potentially unloved in utero rather than just killing those who are actually grown, actually unloved, and are living unhappy lives?
I agree with you on that one. And yes Abortion is a sin...I know a lot of people will argue that it's a choice...but you can't even kill your pets without getting in trouble....and everyone I know who has gotten an abortion whether they agree with it or not, has regretted it...
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:09 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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an unborn child is 'innocent life'.if a mothers life is in danger someones innocent life must end to prevent 2 peoples innocent lives ending.when a woman makes a 'choice' to have sex she knows what the result could be and an abortion in that case would be wrong.a 'rape' wouldnt cause the child to be any less 'innocent' though i suppose i would reluctantly leave the final decision to the woman in that case.none of this changes the fact that only a very small % of abortions are done to save the mother or involve rape,but rather are done as a means of 'after the fact birth control'.
Agreed!
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