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The Tyndale bible is credited as being the first Modern English translation, it was printed in 1525. There were old English translations before Tyndale, but i think the AKJ was produced with a Tyndale translation at the ready.
godspeed,
freedom
The English translations before Tyndale were all made from Latin translations, not from the original Greek and Hebrew.
Let's see if I can give a list of (Protestant) English translations from Tyndale to the AKJ (in no particular order):
All of these Bibles include much of Tyndale's work. Tyndale's work did more that just influence these later translations. These later translations often copied Tyndale's work on a wholesale basis. I seen it claimed that many passages in these translations are identical.
I understand more about the english language than you think. It's my native tongue, I studied english literature.
English is also my native tongue and I have made a point of researching the history behind it. But if you are so knowledgeable about the English language, why did you incorrectly call something that came out in 1611 Old English?
This is based ONLY when understanding the original meaning. How many translations are there now? How many meanings are there?
Regardless of how many translations now exist, each one either conveys the original meaning accurately and in total or it does not. I have not found a single post-1611 English translation that is 100% complete and 100% accurate.
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Didn't say that, but the Word for Word meanings can only come from the source of the Word. Trying to interpret a document that was designed in the Spiritual with a carnal mind is like trying to shoot at a can a mile away with a BB gun.
You are basically saying that no human can understand the Bible because no human can be spiritual. What a puny god you must have if he cannot overcome your human shortcomings.
All of these Bibles include much of Tyndale's work. Tyndale's work did more that just influence these later translations. These later translations often copied Tyndale's work on a wholesale basis. I seen it claimed that many passages in these translations are identical.
That's what i thought, gotta love Tyndale... to bad they took Him out.
I guess that's what fear and being drunk with power manifests.
Really ?! Then why did Paul write so many admonishments, and why the warnings to the 7 churches of Asia ?
Not to mention the Gnostics, whom some scholars believe Paul was alluding to in I Timothy 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
Furthermore, the number of versions/translations of the Bible only works to dampen denominational divisions when the number of versions/translation is small. Without God’s input, the more versions/translations there are the more likely there will be versions/translations that are inaccurate or incomplete. With God’s input the number of versions/translations won’t make any difference because they will all be 100% complete and 100% accurate.
Regardless of how many translations now exist, each one either conveys the original meaning accurately and in total or it does not. I have not found a single post-1611 English translation that is 100% complete and 100% accurate.
You are basically saying that no human can understand the Bible because no human can be spiritual. What a puny god you must have if he cannot overcome your human shortcomings.
Sorry but that was actually rude. My God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, who sent His Son Jesus to die on behalf of the world is far from puny. I said that unless it is REVEALED, than the carnal mind cannot comprehend the Spiritual things of God, EVEN THE WRITTEN WORD. The Pharisees of the day could do no better, while the Son was in their presence.
That's what i thought, gotta love Tyndale... to bad they took Him out.
I guess that's what fear and being drunk with power manifests.
godspeed,
freedom
Everyone has their own personal Judas, and Tyndale's was Henry Phillips. I have a copy of the 1599 Geneva Bible, and though hard to understand, it is the marginal notes that give the best study. The king James Bible is almost word for word the 1525 New Testament written by Tyndale, of course without those pesky margins. Sad to be sure.
One decree issued in 1604, Feb 10th.
"That a translation be made of the whole bible, as consonant as can be to the original Hebrew and Greek: and this to be set out and printed without any marginal notes, and ONLY to be used in ALL churches of ENGLAND in time of divine service"
Everyone has their own personal Judas, and Tyndale's was Henry Phillips. I have a copy of the 1599 Geneva Bible, and though hard to understand, it is the marginal notes that give the best study. The king James Bible is almost word for word the 1525 New Testament written by Tyndale, of course without those pesky margins. Sad to be sure.
One decree issued in 1604, Feb 10th.
"That a translation be made of the whole bible, as consonant as can be to the original Hebrew and Greek: and this to be set out and printed without any marginal notes, and ONLY to be used in ALL churches of ENGLAND in time of divine service"
Is the 1599 Geneva still in print or is it a collectors bible? It would be great to read the margin notes.
Is the 1599 Geneva still in print or is it a collectors bible? It would be great to read the margin notes.
godspeed,
freedom
You can pick one up here, but it is pricey. I paid $300 for mine, and it was a exact photocopy page for page off the original. But this was 15 years ago,,
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My God, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, who sent His Son Jesus to die on behalf of the world is far from puny. I said that unless it is REVEALED, than the carnal mind cannot comprehend the Spiritual things of God, EVEN THE WRITTEN WORD. The Pharisees of the day could do no better, while the Son was in their presence.
